Re: [Python-Dev] Threading, atexit, and logging

2006-12-07 Thread Greg Ewing
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > Also, if the interpreter invokes, say, threading._shutdown(): > that's also "user-screwable", as a user may put something else > into threading._shutdown. Although it would require being somewhat more deliberate, since threading._shutdown clearly has something to do with

Re: [Python-Dev] Threading, atexit, and logging

2006-12-06 Thread Tim Peters
[Tim Peters] >> Sorry, I couldn't follow the intent there. Not obvious to me how >> moving this stuff from `threading` into `thread` would make it >> easier(?) for the implementation to wait for non-daemon threads to >> finish. [Martin v. Löwis] > Currently, if you create a thread through the thr

Re: [Python-Dev] Threading, atexit, and logging

2006-12-06 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Tim Peters schrieb: > Sorry, I couldn't follow the intent there. Not obvious to me how > moving this stuff from `threading` into `thread` would make it > easier(?) for the implementation to wait for non-daemon threads to > finish. Currently, if you create a thread through the thread module (rathe

Re: [Python-Dev] Threading, atexit, and logging

2006-12-06 Thread Tim Peters
[Martin v. Löwis] >>> Upon investigation, it turns out that the file descriptor >>> is closed because the logging atexit handler is invoked. >>> This is surprising, as the program is far from exiting at >>> this point. [Tim Peters] >> But the main thread is done, right? [Martin] > Wrong. main.py

Re: [Python-Dev] Threading, atexit, and logging

2006-12-06 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Tim Peters schrieb: >> Upon investigation, it turns out that the file descriptor >> is closed because the logging atexit handler is invoked. >> This is surprising, as the program is far from exiting at >> this point. > > But the main thread is done, right? Wrong. main.py (which is the __main__ sc

Re: [Python-Dev] Threading, atexit, and logging

2006-12-06 Thread Tim Peters
[Martin v. Löwis] > In bug #1566280 somebody reported that he gets an > exception where the logging module tries to write > to closed file descriptor. > > Upon investigation, it turns out that the file descriptor > is closed because the logging atexit handler is invoked. > This is surprising, as th