Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-13 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
-On [20080413 19:59], "Martin v. Löwis" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >Making suggestions on the list, and then following up with patch, >is certainly encouraged, and happens all the time. Here you go. >I just think that *this* specific proposed change is more effort to >talk about than it's worth.

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-13 Thread Christian Heimes
Brett Cannon schrieb: >> +0. If we ever run out of letters for command line options to have >> to collect -J, we have deeper problems than having to coordinate >> with Jython whether the letter is still available. > > +0 Shall I remove the reservation of -J again? Christian

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-13 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> > > > Isn't that bikeshedding? > > > > > > No. I think "implementation-specific" is definitely more accurate, > > > and I was hoping the suggestion might get an immediate "good idea, > > > implemented", from somebody already looking at that code. > > > > It's already committed, so one

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-13 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
"Martin v. Löwis" writes: > > > > How about "-X is reserved for implementation-specific arguments"? > > > > > Isn't that bikeshedding? > > > > No. I think "implementation-specific" is definitely more accurate, > > and I was hoping the suggestion might get an immediate "good idea, > > im

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-13 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> > > How about "-X is reserved for implementation-specific arguments"? > > > Isn't that bikeshedding? > > No. I think "implementation-specific" is definitely more accurate, > and I was hoping the suggestion might get an immediate "good idea, > implemented", from somebody already looking at th

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-12 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
"Martin v. Löwis" writes: > > How about "-X is reserved for implementation-specific arguments"? > Isn't that bikeshedding? No. I think "implementation-specific" is definitely more accurate, and I was hoping the suggestion might get an immediate "good idea, implemented", from somebody already

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-12 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> How about "-X is reserved for implementation-specific arguments"? Ie, > I suppose that the intent is not that these arguments won't be > standardized, it's that they be standardized by the affected > implementations. Isn't that bikeshedding? Regards, Martin

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-12 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Frank Wierzbicki writes: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Neal Norwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was also going to suggest a platform independent option. I like > > -Xwhat-follows-is-impl-dependent. > This would work just fine for us, and it makes sense to have it > available for al

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-12 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 1:08 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Great, thanks! While I'd love to have *both* -X and -J, is that okay > > with the other devs? > > +0. If we ever run out of letters for command line options to have > to collect -J, we have deeper problems than ha

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-12 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Great, thanks! While I'd love to have *both* -X and -J, is that okay > with the other devs? +0. If we ever run out of letters for command line options to have to collect -J, we have deeper problems than having to coordinate with Jython whether the letter is still available. Regards, Martin ___

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-12 Thread Frank Wierzbicki
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brett Cannon schrieb: > > >> -X is reserved for non-standard arguments > > > > Fine by me. > > And implemented in r62293 (trunk) Great, thanks! While I'd love to have *both* -X and -J, is that okay with the other d

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-12 Thread Christian Heimes
Brett Cannon schrieb: >> -X is reserved for non-standard arguments > > Fine by me. And implemented in r62293 (trunk) Christian ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://m

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-12 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Frank Wierzbicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Neal Norwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was also going to suggest a platform independent option. I like > > -Xwhat-follows-is-impl-dependent. > This would work just fine for us

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-12 Thread Frank Wierzbicki
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Neal Norwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was also going to suggest a platform independent option. I like > -Xwhat-follows-is-impl-dependent. This would work just fine for us, and it makes sense to have it available for all implementations. If everyone likes th

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-11 Thread Neal Norwitz
> > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank > Wierzbicki > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:14 PM > To: Brett Cannon > Cc: Guido van Rossum; python-dev@python.org > Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-11 Thread Michael Foord
Frank Wierzbicki wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> Works for me. We should have a patch to CPython that looks for -J and >>> >> > rejects it w

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-11 Thread Dino Viehland
Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Works for me. We should have a patch to CPython that looks

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-11 Thread Frank Wierzbicki
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Works for me. We should have a patch to CPython that looks for -J and > > rejects it with "-J is reserved for Jython". > > > > Do we want

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-11 Thread Brett Cannon
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Works for me. We should have a patch to CPython that looks for -J and > rejects it with "-J is reserved for Jython". > Do we want it to be Jython-specific, or should it be available to any alternative VM? I don't know

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-11 Thread Frank Wierzbicki
Patch is here: http://bugs.python.org/issue2617 -Frank ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-11 Thread Frank Wierzbicki
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Works for me. We should have a patch to CPython that looks for -J and > rejects it with "-J is reserved for Jython". Great! Knowing this crowd it is probably already implemented -- but if not I'd love to dust off my C

Re: [Python-Dev] Reserving an arg space for Jython

2008-04-11 Thread Guido van Rossum
Works for me. We should have a patch to CPython that looks for -J and rejects it with "-J is reserved for Jython". On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Frank Wierzbicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I was wondering if it might be possible for Jython to get an "arg > space" for command li