On 12/07/2013 00:58, Christian Heimes wrote:
> Hi,
>
> how do you feel about dropping Windows XP support for Python 3.4? It
> would enable us to use some features that are only available on Windows
> Vista and newer, for example http://bugs.python.org/issue6926 and
> http://bugs.python.org/issue17
Am 12.07.13 01:58, schrieb Christian Heimes:
> For Python 3.4 is going to be a very close call. According to PEP 429
> 3.4.0 final is scheduled for February 22, 2014. The extended support
> phase of Windows XP ends merely 45 days later on April 8, 2014. Do we
> really have to restrict ourselves to
Ben Finney writes:
> "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes:
>
> > I don't see any good reason to take into account what Microsoft does
> > or doesn't support.
>
> It seems you're advocating a position quite ad odds with
> http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0011/#id7>.
Not at all. The first thing
On 7/12/2013 8:50 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
You underestimate the reach of XP. For older or underpowered hardware
outside the developed world it is still the de facto choice. And it
definitely is the best version of Windows ever. None of the Win98 crap
and none of the Vista junk.
Telling
You underestimate the reach of XP. For older or underpowered hardware
outside the developed world it is still the de facto choice. And it
definitely is the best version of Windows ever. None of the Win98 crap and
none of the Vista junk.
Telling people to go install Ubuntu is not really fair if oth
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Christian Heimes wrote:
> For Python 3.4 is going to be a very close call. According to PEP 429
> 3.4.0 final is scheduled for February 22, 2014. The extended support
> phase of Windows XP ends merely 45 days later on April 8, 2014. Do we
> really have to restrict
Am 12.07.2013 03:49, schrieb Ben Hoyt:
> I guess it has to be dropped at some stage, but with Windows XP it's a
> case of "XP is dead. Long live XP!" There are still an awful lot of XP
> boxes out there, and I'd kind hate to see support dropped completely. We
> still use it here at home.
>
> Wikip
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 22:28:49 -0400
"R. David Murray" wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 13:49:54 +1200, Ben Hoyt wrote:
> > I guess it has to be dropped at some stage, but with Windows XP it's a case
> > of "XP is dead. Long live XP!" There are still an awful lot of XP boxes out
> > there, and I'd kind
On 12 July 2013 13:27, Lennart Regebro wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Steve Dower
> wrote:
> > +1. And maybe amend PEP 11 to specify "whose extended support phase does
> not expire within 6 months of release"? (I picked 6 for no particular
> reason.)
>
> Why have the specification in
"Stephen J. Turnbull" writes:
> I don't see any good reason to take into account what Microsoft does
> or doesn't support.
It seems you're advocating a position quite ad odds with
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0011/#id7>. Can you propose an
amendment to PEP 11 that would remove that conside
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Steve Dower wrote:
> +1. And maybe amend PEP 11 to specify "whose extended support phase does not
> expire within 6 months of release"? (I picked 6 for no particular reason.)
Why have the specification in PEP 11 if we feel we can change the
rules arbitrarily when
Steve Dower writes:
> I don't see any good reason for Python to support an OS that
> Microsoft doesn't,
How about the *users* of that OS?
I don't see any good reason to take into account what Microsoft does
or doesn't support. If that lack of support leads to Python users
dropping XP like hot
Ah, yeah, that makes sense -- thanks for the further explanation. True
about older versions of Python "not going away".
> What about just have these attributes/functions on OSes that support it,
> > for example os.kill on Python 2.6 vs 2.7?
>
> I'm afraid it's not that simple. The issue (as I un
On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 13:49:54 +1200, Ben Hoyt wrote:
> I guess it has to be dropped at some stage, but with Windows XP it's a case
> of "XP is dead. Long live XP!" There are still an awful lot of XP boxes out
> there, and I'd kind hate to see support dropped completely. We still use it
> here at ho
I guess it has to be dropped at some stage, but with Windows XP it's a case
of "XP is dead. Long live XP!" There are still an awful lot of XP boxes out
there, and I'd kind hate to see support dropped completely. We still use it
here at home.
Wikipedia/Net Applications says that Windows XP has stil
On 07/11/2013 04:58 PM, Christian Heimes wrote:
how do you feel about dropping Windows XP support for Python 3.4? It
would enable us to use some features that are only available on Windows
Vista and newer, for example http://bugs.python.org/issue6926 and
http://bugs.python.org/issue1763 .
PEP 1
+1. And maybe amend PEP 11 to specify "whose extended support phase does not
expire within 6 months of release"? (I picked 6 for no particular reason.)
I don't see any good reason for Python to support an OS that Microsoft doesn't,
but once 3.4.0 has been released with XP support it can't really
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