Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 511 (code transformers) rejected

2017-11-02 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 3 November 2017 at 03:19, Brett Cannon wrote: > On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 at 16:17 Lukasz Langa wrote: >> >> I find this sad. In the JavaScript community the existence of Babel is >> very important for the long-term evolution of the language independently >> from the runtime. With Babel, JavaScript p

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 511 (code transformers) rejected

2017-11-02 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 2 November 2017 at 23:42, Victor Stinner wrote: > (Email resent, I first sent it to Nick privately by mistake.) Oops, I didn't even notice that. Reposting my reply below. > 2017-11-02 2:53 GMT+01:00 Nick Coghlan : >> The piece that we're currently missing to make such workflows easier to >> m

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 511 (code transformers) rejected

2017-11-02 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 at 16:17 Lukasz Langa wrote: > I find this sad. In the JavaScript community the existence of Babel is > very important for the long-term evolution of the language independently > from the runtime. With Babel, JavaScript programmers can utilize new > language syntax while being

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 511 (code transformers) rejected

2017-11-02 Thread Victor Stinner
(Email resent, I first sent it to Nick privately by mistake.) 2017-11-02 2:53 GMT+01:00 Nick Coghlan : > The piece that we're currently missing to make such workflows easier to > manage is an equivalent of JavaScript's source maps (...) Code objects already have a instruction pointer => line numb

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 511 (code transformers) rejected

2017-11-01 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 2 November 2017 at 09:16, Lukasz Langa wrote: > I find this sad. In the JavaScript community the existence of Babel is > very important for the long-term evolution of the language independently > from the runtime. With Babel, JavaScript programmers can utilize new > language syntax while being

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 511 (code transformers) rejected

2017-11-01 Thread Lukasz Langa
I find this sad. In the JavaScript community the existence of Babel is very important for the long-term evolution of the language independently from the runtime. With Babel, JavaScript programmers can utilize new language syntax while being able to deploy on dated browsers. While there's always