Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 405 (built-in virtualenv) status

2012-06-04 Thread Christian Tismer
On 6/4/12 4:11 PM, Carl Meyer wrote: Hello Christian, On 06/03/2012 03:56 PM, Éric Araujo wrote: Le 02/06/2012 12:59, Christian Tismer a écrit : One urgent question: will this feature be backported to Python 2.7? Features are never backported to the stable versions. virtualenv still exists a

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 405 (built-in virtualenv) status

2012-06-04 Thread Carl Meyer
Hello Christian, On 06/03/2012 03:56 PM, Éric Araujo wrote: > Le 02/06/2012 12:59, Christian Tismer a écrit : >> One urgent question: will this feature be backported to Python 2.7? > > Features are never backported to the stable versions. virtualenv still > exists as a standalone project which i

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 405 (built-in virtualenv) status

2012-06-03 Thread Christian Tismer
On 04.06.12 00:28, Nick Coghlan wrote: ... Backwards compatibility constraints mean we simply can't do that. However, as noted above, it may make sense to provide more ways for embedding applications to selectively access the behaviour through the C API. Why that??? I don't see this. If you hav

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 405 (built-in virtualenv) status

2012-06-03 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Christian Tismer wrote: > As an old windows guy, I very much agree with Kristjan. The venv > approach is great. Windows is just a quite weird situation to handle > in some cases, and a super-simple way to get rid of *any* built-in behavior > concerning setup would b

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 405 (built-in virtualenv) status

2012-06-03 Thread Éric Araujo
Hi, Le 02/06/2012 12:59, Christian Tismer a écrit : > One urgent question: will this feature be backported to Python 2.7? Features are never backported to the stable versions. virtualenv still exists as a standalone project which is compatible with 2.7 though. Regards __

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 405 (built-in virtualenv) status

2012-06-02 Thread Christian Tismer
On 21.03.12 14:35, Kristján Valur Jónsson wrote: -Original Message- From: Carl Meyer [mailto:c...@oddbird.net] Sent: 19. mars 2012 19:19 To: Kristján Valur Jónsson Cc: Python-Dev (python-dev@python.org) Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 405 (built-in virtualenv) status Hello Kristján, I

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 405 (built-in virtualenv) status

2012-06-02 Thread Christian Tismer
On 15.03.12 22:43, Carl Meyer wrote: A brief status update on PEP 405 (built-in virtualenv) and the open issues: 1. As mentioned in the updated version of the language summit notes, Nick Coghlan has agreed to pronounce on the PEP. 2. Ned Deily discovered at the PyCon sprints that the current re

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 405 (built-in virtualenv) status

2012-03-21 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson
> -Original Message- > From: Carl Meyer [mailto:c...@oddbird.net] > Sent: 19. mars 2012 19:19 > To: Kristján Valur Jónsson > Cc: Python-Dev (python-dev@python.org) > Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 405 (built-in virtualenv) status > > Hello Kristján, > I

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 405 (built-in virtualenv) status

2012-03-19 Thread Ethan Furman
Carl Meyer wrote: The bulk of the work in PEP 405 is aimed towards a rather different goal from yours - to be able to share an installed Python's copy of the standard library among a number of virtual environments. This is the purpose of the "home" key in pyvenv.cfg and the added sys.base_prefix

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 405 (built-in virtualenv) status

2012-03-19 Thread Carl Meyer
Hello Kristján, On 03/19/2012 03:26 AM, Kristján Valur Jónsson wrote: > Hi Carl. I'm very interested in this work. At CCP we work heavily > with virtual environments. Except that we don't use virtualenv > because it is just a pain in the neck. We like to be able to run > virtual python environme

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 405 (built-in virtualenv) status

2012-03-19 Thread Glenn Linderman
On 3/19/2012 2:26 AM, Kristján Valur Jónsson wrote: Hi Carl. I'm very interested in this work. At CCP we work heavily with virtual environments. Except that we don't use virtualenv because it is just a pain in the neck. We like to be able to run virtual python environments of various types as

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 405 (built-in virtualenv) status

2012-03-19 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson
ython-dev-bounces+kristjan=ccpgames@python.org] On Behalf Of Carl Meyer Sent: 15. mars 2012 22:12 To: python-dev Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 405 (built-in virtualenv) status On 03/15/2012 03:02 PM, Lindberg, Van wrote: > FYI, the location of the tcl/tk libraries does not appear to be set in > the

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 405 (built-in virtualenv) status

2012-03-16 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/16/2012 04:46 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 05:55, Tres Seaver > wrote: >> ExtensionClass and Acquisition would fit the bill, except they >> aren't ported to Python3 (Acquisition needs the headers from >> ExtensionClass).

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 405 (built-in virtualenv) status

2012-03-16 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 05:55, Tres Seaver wrote: > ExtensionClass and Acquisition would fit the bill, except they aren't > ported to Python3 (Acquisition needs the headers from ExtensionClass). And there were no plans to port them either, really. :-) Only Zope 2 uses them afaik? Or? //Lennart _

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 405 (built-in virtualenv) status

2012-03-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/15/2012 05:43 PM, Carl Meyer wrote: > A brief status update on PEP 405 (built-in virtualenv) and the open > issues: > > 1. As mentioned in the updated version of the language summit notes, > Nick Coghlan has agreed to pronounce on the PEP. > >

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 405 (built-in virtualenv) status

2012-03-15 Thread Carl Meyer
On 03/15/2012 03:02 PM, Lindberg, Van wrote: > FYI, the location of the tcl/tk libraries does not appear to be set in > the virtualenv, even if tkinter is installed and working in the main > Python installation. As a result, tk-based apps will not run from a > virtualenv. Thanks for the report!