Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144 review, and the inclusion process

2009-09-28 Thread Andrew McNamara
>I've never said otherwise. In fact, from an email last night, "If what >the community requires is the library you've described, then ipaddr is >not that library." The changes *you* require make ipaddr significantly >less useful to me. I'm not prepared to make those changes in an >attempt seek acce

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144 review, and the inclusion process

2009-09-28 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Guido van Rossum python.org> writes: >> >> At the same time I don't think a complete reset of the proposed API is >> necessary.  I am rather more thinking of judicious API tweaks in order >> to cover some new use cases, without requiring a

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144 review, and the inclusion process

2009-09-28 Thread DrKJam
2009/9/28 Peter Moody > [cc += david moss] > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Guido van Rossum > wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Antoine Pitrou > wrote: > >> Peter Moody hda3.com> writes: > >>> > >>> I've never said otherwise. In fact, from an email last night, "If what > >>> the

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144 review, and the inclusion process

2009-09-28 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:39:06 am Guido van Rossum wrote: > I think Peter is pretty frustrated by the many attacks on "his" > library. There are probably a number of different things going on > simultaneous: Peter has been driven into the defense by attacks both > reasonable and unreasonable, there

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144 review, and the inclusion process

2009-09-28 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Guido van Rossum python.org> writes: > > At the same time I don't think a complete reset of the proposed API is > necessary. I am rather more thinking of judicious API tweaks in order > to cover some new use cases, without requiring a complete rewrite or > destroying the usability of the proposa

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144 review, and the inclusion process

2009-09-28 Thread Peter Moody
[cc += david moss] On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> Peter Moody hda3.com> writes: >>> >>> I've never said otherwise. In fact, from an email last night, "If what >>> the community requires is the library you've d

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144 review, and the inclusion process

2009-09-28 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Peter Moody hda3.com> writes: >> >> I've never said otherwise. In fact, from an email last night, "If what >> the community requires is the library you've described, then ipaddr is >> not that library." The changes *you* require make ipaddr

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144 review, and the inclusion process

2009-09-27 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Peter Moody hda3.com> writes: > > I've never said otherwise. In fact, from an email last night, "If what > the community requires is the library you've described, then ipaddr is > not that library." The changes *you* require make ipaddr significantly > less useful to me. I'm not prepared to make

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144 review, and the inclusion process

2009-09-27 Thread Peter Moody
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Peter Moody hda3.com> writes: >> >> this is "less useful (strictly removing functionality)" and is an >> example of what I explicitly said I was not going to do with ipaddr. > > (please note the conditional wording here) Assuming that a sig

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144 review, and the inclusion process

2009-09-27 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Peter Moody hda3.com> writes: > > this is "less useful (strictly removing functionality)" and is an > example of what I explicitly said I was not going to do with ipaddr. (please note the conditional wording here) Assuming that a significant number of people agree that there is a design problem,