Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread skip
Brett> While this is going to require a PEP (which I am willing to Brett> write), the discussion of adding pysqlite has brought forth some Brett> discussion on naming and packaging in the stdlub. Perhaps it's Brett> time to start discussing the Great Library Reorganization that

Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Giovanni Bajo
Anthony Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't have a problem with reorganising the standard library, but > what's the motivation for moving everything under a new root? Is it > just to allow people to unambigiously get hold of something from the > stdlib, rather than following the normal sea

Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 3/29/06, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/29/06, Anthony Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 30 March 2006 08:39, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > Here is a place I think we can take a queue from Java. I think we > > > should have a root package, 'py', and then have subpack

Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Anthony Baxter
On Thursday 30 March 2006 10:31, Brett Cannon wrote: > > I don't have a problem with reorganising the standard library, > > but what's the motivation for moving everything under a new root? > > Is it just to allow people to unambigiously get hold of something > > from the stdlib, rather than follow

Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Brett Cannon
On 3/29/06, Anthony Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 30 March 2006 08:39, Brett Cannon wrote: > > Here is a place I think we can take a queue from Java. I think we > > should have a root package, 'py', and then have subpackages within > > that. > > org.python.stdlib, surely? > > I

Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Anthony Baxter
On Thursday 30 March 2006 08:39, Brett Cannon wrote: > Here is a place I think we can take a queue from Java. I think we > should have a root package, 'py', and then have subpackages within > that. org.python.stdlib, surely? I don't have a problem with reorganising the standard library, but

Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Scott David Daniels
Brett Cannon wrote: > Here is a place I think we can take a queue from Java. I think we > should have a root package, 'py', and then have subpackages within > that At one point Tim Peters and I thought the right spot for python equivalents of C-coded modules belonged in package "py". Would '

Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Brett Cannon
On 3/29/06, Dennis Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not quite on the same topic, but perhaps it belong there. I think most of > use use both the stdlib and some selection of other libraries > (MySQL-Python, ReportLab Toolkit, PyChart, and PyXML, for example). These > libraries have to be ma

Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Brett Cannon wrote: > > Wouldn't the newly founded python-3000 mailing list be the perfect place > > for such major changes? > > If you go back and look at Guido's Python 3000 Process email he said > that the change could occur in 2.6 and then be done for 3000. > Renaming modules is not that hard

Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Dennis Allison
Not quite on the same topic, but perhaps it belong there. I think most of use use both the stdlib and some selection of other libraries (MySQL-Python, ReportLab Toolkit, PyChart, and PyXML, for example). These libraries have to be managed independently and installed independently. It would be n

Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Brett Cannon
On 3/29/06, Gerhard Häring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Brett Cannon wrote: > > While this is going to require a PEP (which I am willing to write), > > the discussion of adding pysqlite has brought forth some discussion on > > naming and packaging

Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Gerhard Häring
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brett Cannon wrote: > While this is going to require a PEP (which I am willing to write), > the discussion of adding pysqlite has brought forth some discussion on > naming and packaging in the stdlub. Perhaps it's time to start > discussing the Great