Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 21, 2006, at 11:19 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > In that case, what I think we ought to do is not add the DP paths > (i.e. /opt/local) to setup.py specifically to get its readline, but > instead to pick up any libraries that happen to be in DP in > preference to those in OSX by default. If tha

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 18, 2006, at 8:24 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > The import of the Ghostscript case is that the FSF considers a > Makefile stanza clearly intended to cause linkage to a GPL library, > even if optional and supplied by the user, to create a work derived > from that library. A "GNU readline

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-18 Thread Alex Martelli
On Jan 18, 2006, at 8:47 PM, James Y Knight wrote: > On Jan 18, 2006, at 11:40 PM, Aahz wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 18, 2006, Guido van Rossum wrote: >>> >>> Can we just all agree that RMS is an asshole now? Bah. >> >> "Citing RMS's insanity is a great way to get my blood steaming." -- >> GvR > > Ya

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-18 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jan 18, 2006, at 8:47 PM, James Y Knight wrote: > > On Jan 18, 2006, at 11:40 PM, Aahz wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 18, 2006, Guido van Rossum wrote: >>> >>> Can we just all agree that RMS is an asshole now? Bah. >> >> "Citing RMS's insanity is a great way to get my blood steaming." -- >> GvR > >

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-18 Thread James Y Knight
On Jan 18, 2006, at 11:40 PM, Aahz wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2006, Guido van Rossum wrote: >> >> Can we just all agree that RMS is an asshole now? Bah. > > "Citing RMS's insanity is a great way to get my blood steaming." -- > GvR Ya know, you don't *have* to use his software. For example, pytho

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-18 Thread Aahz
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006, Guido van Rossum wrote: > > Can we just all agree that RMS is an asshole now? Bah. "Citing RMS's insanity is a great way to get my blood steaming." --GvR -- Aahz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ "19. A language that doesn't affect the w

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-18 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jan 18, 2006, at 1:31 AM, Anthony Baxter wrote: > On Wednesday 18 January 2006 16:25, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> Unless rms has changed his position on this, or there has been >> relevant legislation or a court decision in the meantime, >> explicitly requiring or checking for "real" libread

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-18 Thread skip
Anthony> It sounds like configure needs to grow a test to detect that a Anthony> "libreadline" it finds is actually the crackful "libedit" and Anthony> refuse to use it if so. >> FYI: Real libreadline is GPL, ... Didn't Python's readline module work with libedit once upon a time?

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-18 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 1/17/06, Stephen J. Turnbull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Anthony" == Anthony Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Anthony> It sounds like configure needs to grow a test to detect > Anthony> that a "libreadline" it finds is actually the crackful > Anthony> "libedit" and refu

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-18 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
> "Anthony" == Anthony Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Anthony> Python's license is GPL-compatible, so this isn't an Anthony> issue. I'm sorry, but you seem to misunderstand what "GPL compatibility" means. It is a _one-way_ street. A license is GPL-compatible if its terms permit

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-18 Thread Anthony Baxter
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 16:25, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Unless rms has changed his position on this, or there has been > relevant legislation or a court decision in the meantime, > explicitly requiring or checking for "real" libreadline, even as a > user option, risks rms's wrath. (Of cou

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-18 Thread Thomas Wouters
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 02:25:03PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Anthony> It sounds like configure needs to grow a test to detect > Anthony> that a "libreadline" it finds is actually the crackful > Anthony> "libedit" and refuse to use it if so. > FYI: Real libreadline is GPL, an

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-17 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
> "Anthony" == Anthony Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Anthony> It sounds like configure needs to grow a test to detect Anthony> that a "libreadline" it finds is actually the crackful Anthony> "libedit" and refuse to use it if so. FYI: Real libreadline is GPL, and rms made a po

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-17 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jan 17, 2006, at 4:17 PM, Anthony Baxter wrote: > On Wednesday 18 January 2006 06:19, Barry Warsaw wrote: >> On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 19:17 +0100, Thomas Heller wrote: >>> Building the readline on OS X 10.4 fails, is this known, or am I >>> doing something wrong? >> >> There are definitely seriou

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-17 Thread Anthony Baxter
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 06:19, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 19:17 +0100, Thomas Heller wrote: > > Building the readline on OS X 10.4 fails, is this known, or am I > > doing something wrong? > > There are definitely serious issues with readline on OS X 10.4. > I've hit them too

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-17 Thread Brett Cannon
On 1/17/06, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 19:17 +0100, Thomas Heller wrote: > > Building the readline on OS X 10.4 fails, is this known, or am I doing > > something wrong? > > There are definitely serious issues with readline on OS X 10.4. I've > hit them too but

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 19:17 +0100, Thomas Heller wrote: > Building the readline on OS X 10.4 fails, is this known, or am I doing > something wrong? There are definitely serious issues with readline on OS X 10.4. I've hit them too but haven't had time to post about it yet. I'm far from an expert

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-17 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jan 17, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Thomas Heller wrote: > Building the readline on OS X 10.4 fails, is this known, or am I doing > something wrong? Mac OS X doesn't ship with readline. It ships with BSD libedit symlinked to readline. Not good enough for Python. You need a third party copy. I