Re: [Python-Dev] Benchmark results across all major Python implementations

2015-11-18 Thread R. David Murray
On 17 Nov 2015, at 21:22, Stewart, David C wrote: > On 11/17/15, 10:40 AM, "Python-Dev on behalf of R. David Murray" > rdmur...@bitdance.com> wrote: >> >> I suppose that for this to have maximum effect someone would have to >> specifically be paying attention to performance and figuring out why

Re: [Python-Dev] Benchmark results across all major Python implementations

2015-11-17 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Stewart, David C writes: > Note: PGO is not the default way to build Python because it is > relatively slow to compile it that way. (I think it should be the > default). +1 Slow-build-fast-run should be the default if you're sure the optimization works. Only developers are likely to run a gi

Re: [Python-Dev] Benchmark results across all major Python implementations

2015-11-17 Thread Popa, Stefan A
Hi Python community, Thank you for your feedback! We will look into this and come up with an e-mail format proposal in the following days. Best regards, -- Stefan A. POPA Software Engineering Manager System Technologies and Optimization Division Software Services Group, Intel Romania > On 17 N

Re: [Python-Dev] Benchmark results across all major Python implementations

2015-11-17 Thread Stewart, David C
+Stefan (owner of the 0-day lab) On 11/17/15, 10:40 AM, "Python-Dev on behalf of R. David Murray" wrote: >On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 23:37:06 +, "Stewart, David C" > wrote: >> Last June we started publishing a daily performance report of the latest >> Python tip against the previous day's run

Re: [Python-Dev] Benchmark results across all major Python implementations

2015-11-17 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 23:37:06 +, "Stewart, David C" wrote: > Last June we started publishing a daily performance report of the latest > Python tip against the previous day's run and some established synch point. > We mail these to the community to act as a "canary in the coal mine." I wrote

Re: [Python-Dev] Benchmark results across all major Python implementations

2015-11-16 Thread Stewart, David C
Last June we started publishing a daily performance report of the latest Python tip against the previous day's run and some established synch point. We mail these to the community to act as a "canary in the coal mine." I wrote about it at https://01.org/lp/blog/0-day-challenge-what-pulse-interne

Re: [Python-Dev] Benchmark results across all major Python implementations

2015-11-16 Thread Jim Baker
Brett, Very cool, I'm glad to see that Jython's performance was competitive under most of these benchmarks. I would also be interested in joining the proposed mailing list. re elementtree - I assume the benchmarking is usually done with cElementTree. However Jython currently lacks a Java equivale

Re: [Python-Dev] Benchmark results across all major Python implementations

2015-11-16 Thread Tim Golden
On 16/11/2015 22:23, Zachary Ware wrote: On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Brian Curtin wrote: On Monday, November 16, 2015, Brett Cannon wrote: Hi Brett Any thoughts on improving the benchmark set (I think all of {cpython,pypy,pyston} introduced new benchmarks to the set). We should pr

Re: [Python-Dev] Benchmark results across all major Python implementations

2015-11-16 Thread Zachary Ware
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Brian Curtin wrote: > On Monday, November 16, 2015, Brett Cannon wrote: >>> >>> Hi Brett >>> >>> Any thoughts on improving the benchmark set (I think all of >>> {cpython,pypy,pyston} introduced new benchmarks to the set). >> >> >> We should probably start a maili

Re: [Python-Dev] Benchmark results across all major Python implementations

2015-11-16 Thread Brett Cannon
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 at 12:24 Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: > Hi Brett > > Any thoughts on improving the benchmark set (I think all of > {cpython,pypy,pyston} introduced new benchmarks to the set). > We should probably start a mailing list and finally hash out a common set of benchmarks that we all a

Re: [Python-Dev] Benchmark results across all major Python implementations

2015-11-16 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 21:23:49 +0100, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: > Any thoughts on improving the benchmark set (I think all of > {cpython,pypy,pyston} introduced new benchmarks to the set). > "speed.python.org" becoming a thing is generally stopped on "noone > cares enough to set it up". Actually, w

Re: [Python-Dev] Benchmark results across all major Python implementations

2015-11-16 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
Hi Brett Any thoughts on improving the benchmark set (I think all of {cpython,pypy,pyston} introduced new benchmarks to the set). "speed.python.org" becoming a thing is generally stopped on "noone cares enough to set it up". Cheers, fijal On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: >