Re: [Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 434, Idle Enhancement Exception

2013-03-30 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:36:39 -0700 "fwierzbi...@gmail.com" wrote: > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Simon Cross > wrote: > > > Having a standalone version of IDLE might be really useful to > > alternative Python implementations. > > I suspect it's too hard. I remember seeing some work on "any

Re: [Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 434, Idle Enhancement Exception

2013-03-30 Thread fwierzbi...@gmail.com
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Simon Cross wrote: > Having a standalone version of IDLE might be really useful to > alternative Python implementations. I suspect it's too hard. I remember seeing some work on "anygui.py" that looked like an attempt to make these sorts of things work across var

Re: [Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 434, Idle Enhancement Exception

2013-03-30 Thread Daniel Holth
Yes, it would probably make more sense to split the editor and shell processes as many Python IDEs do, with IDLE running in CPython and the user's computation running in the chosen interpreter. On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 5:26 AM, Antoine P

Re: [Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 434, Idle Enhancement Exception

2013-03-30 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 5:26 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 08:33:38 +0200 > Simon Cross wrote: > >> Having a standalone version of IDLE might be really useful to >> alternative Python implementations. > > Why? I don't think it's worth discussing - tkinter does not work on any o

Re: [Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 434, Idle Enhancement Exception

2013-03-30 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 08:33:38 +0200 Simon Cross wrote: > Having a standalone version of IDLE might be really useful to > alternative Python implementations. Why? ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 434, Idle Enhancement Exception

2013-03-29 Thread Simon Cross
Having a standalone version of IDLE might be really useful to alternative Python implementations. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/pyt

Re: [Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 434, Idle Enhancement Exception

2013-03-29 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> I am accepting Todd Rovito's and Terry Reedy's PEP 434, officially >> declaring IDLE to be an application bundled with Python, with the >> contents of "Lib/idlelib" exempt from th

Re: [Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 434, Idle Enhancement Exception

2013-03-29 Thread Todd Rovito
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: > Does that mean that mainstream idle development should move out of the > python tree? No the acceptance of PEP-434 does not mean IDLE development should move out of the python tree. The acceptance of PEP-434 means that the restrictio

Re: [Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 434, Idle Enhancement Exception

2013-03-29 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > I am accepting Todd Rovito's and Terry Reedy's PEP 434, officially > declaring IDLE to be an application bundled with Python, with the > contents of "Lib/idlelib" exempt from the usual "no new features in > maintenance releases" rule. > > As s