On Sat, Feb 21, 2009, rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote:
>
> Not that I'm expecting to be working on PEPs any time soon, but just as a
> different perspective, I would find the effort to open up Google docs to
> be a much higher barrier to doing some editing tweaks than the dvcs case.
For me, the big ba
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull
wrote:
> Overall, I recommend use of Google Docs for "Python-Ideas" level of
> PEP drafts.
+1! I also like Google Sites for collaborative editing.
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On Feb 20, 2009, at 10:56 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
(1) and (2) are obvious, I think, and I don't know how much (3) really
matters when the editors are a small group. But I was surprised by
how much (4), and (5) contributed to my experience wo
On 21-02-2009, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 6:25 AM, wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 at 01:12, Jeff Hall wrote:
Not that I'm expecting to be working on PEPs any time soon, but just as a
different perspective, I would find the effort to open up Google docs to
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 6:25 AM, wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 at 01:12, Jeff Hall wrote:
>>>
>>> Not that I'm expecting to be working on PEPs any time soon, but just as a
>>> different perspective, I would find the effort to open up Google docs to
>>> be a much higher barrier to doing some editin
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 at 01:12, Jeff Hall wrote:
Not that I'm expecting to be working on PEPs any time soon, but just as a
different perspective, I would find the effort to open up Google docs to
be a much higher barrier to doing some editing tweaks than the dvcs case.
For the DVCS, I'd just write
-On [20090220 18:51], Guido van Rossum (gu...@python.org) wrote:
>I still don't like wikis for this purpose very much -- a person
>editing effectively grabs a lock on the whole file.
Imagine a Wiki with a cross-polination of Etherpad [1], that would resolve
that complaint.
[1] http://etherpad.com
On 21-02-2009, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Summary:
>
> Google Docs is easy to use, featureful, and here now. Since AIUI the
> PEPs eventually need to be hosted at python.org, I see Google Docs as
> an immediate replacement for email transmission of early drafts of
> PEPs, not as a permanent solu
> Not that I'm expecting to be working on PEPs any time soon, but just as a
> different perspective, I would find the effort to open up Google docs to
> be a much higher barrier to doing some editing tweaks than the dvcs case.
> For the DVCS, I'd just write a little script that would (1) update (2)
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 at 12:56, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
(4) automatic saves of intermediate work
-- at the tweak stage, the effort to save, commit, and push to a
DVCS outweighs the effort to tweak, costing a lot of polish IME
-- wikis don't do this, and I wonder whether people would
Summary:
Google Docs is easy to use, featureful, and here now. Since AIUI the
PEPs eventually need to be hosted at python.org, I see Google Docs as
an immediate replacement for email transmission of early drafts of
PEPs, not as a permanent solution to PEP storage.
William Dode writes:
> Isn't
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On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Isn't it the good oportunity to try a DVCS ?
That was my original suggestion, yes, but Stephen Turnbull suggested
Google Docs instead.
I found Google docs to be both very helpful and very pain
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:02 AM, William Dode wrote:
> On 20-02-2009, Guido van Rossum wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>>> Georg Brandl gmx.net> writes:
The Python Wiki should also be considered:
* Comparing versions is easy, and versions are
On 20-02-2009, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>> Georg Brandl gmx.net> writes:
>>>
>>> The Python Wiki should also be considered:
>>>
>>> * Comparing versions is easy, and versions are only saved on "Save"
>>>
>>> * It supports reStructuredText, s
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> Georg Brandl gmx.net> writes:
>>
>> The Python Wiki should also be considered:
>>
>> * Comparing versions is easy, and versions are only saved on "Save"
>>
>> * It supports reStructuredText, so there is no need for conversion
>> afterward
Georg Brandl gmx.net> writes:
>
> The Python Wiki should also be considered:
>
> * Comparing versions is easy, and versions are only saved on "Save"
>
> * It supports reStructuredText, so there is no need for conversion
> afterwards.
And it's vendor-neutral :-)
Stephen J. Turnbull schrieb:
> FWIW, Google Docs is almost there. Working with Brett et al on early
> drafts of PEP 0374 was easy and pleasant, and Google Docs gives
> control of access to the document to the editor, not the Subversion
> admin. The ability to make comments that are not visible t
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull
wrote:
> On Python-Ideas, Guido van Rossum writes:
>
> > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:12 AM, Greg Ewing wrote:
>
> > > Fifth draft of the PEP. Re-worded a few things slightly
> > > to hopefully make the proposal a bit clearer up front.
> >
> >
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