Re: [Python-Dev] [issue3769] Deprecate bsddb for removal in 3.0

2008-09-07 Thread Gregory P. Smith
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another thing to keep in mind with the whole shelve/dbm.any argument > is that for 3.1 there is nothing saying we can't change shelve and the > dbm package to allow 3rd-party code to register with the dbm package > such that

Re: [Python-Dev] [issue3769] Deprecate bsddb for removal in 3.0

2008-09-04 Thread Brett Cannon
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 6:35 AM, Jesus Cea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Brett Cannon wrote: >>> Also, the reason for removal may yet disappear >>> if jcrea steps in an continues to make updates. >> >> OK, but none of his changes have received a cod

Re: [Python-Dev] [issue3769] Deprecate bsddb for removal in 3.0

2008-09-04 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nick Coghlan wrote: > While that will still be visible to some degree due to the presence of > the 2.x version of the bsddb code in Python 2.6, I don't think it will > be quite the same as it would have been with the 3.x version also being > readily av

Re: [Python-Dev] [issue3769] Deprecate bsddb for removal in 3.0

2008-09-04 Thread Nick Coghlan
Raymond Hettinger wrote: > I think this should be deferred to Py3.1. > This decision was not widely discussed and I think it likely that some > users will > be surprised and dismayed. The release > candidate seems to be the wrong time to > yank this out (in part because of the surprise > factor) a

Re: [Python-Dev] [issue3769] Deprecate bsddb for removal in 3.0

2008-09-04 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brett Cannon wrote: >> Also, the reason for removal may yet disappear >> if jcrea steps in an continues to make updates. > > OK, but none of his changes have received a code review, so if we are > going to go down the whole "disciplined" route about i

Re: [Python-Dev] [issue3769] Deprecate bsddb for removal in 3.0

2008-09-04 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michele Simionato wrote: > I do not use bsddb directly, but I use shelve which on Linux usually > takes advantage of bsddb. Does removing bsddb mean that > I will not be able to read shelve files written with Python 2.5 > with Python 3.0? That would be

Re: [Python-Dev] [issue3769] Deprecate bsddb for removal in 3.0

2008-09-04 Thread skip
Michele> I do not use bsddb directly, but I use shelve which on Linux Michele> usually takes advantage of bsddb. Does removing bsddb mean that Michele> I will not be able to read shelve files written with Python 2.5 Michele> with Python 3.0? That would be quite disturbing to me. C

Re: [Python-Dev] [issue3769] Deprecate bsddb for removal in 3.0

2008-09-03 Thread Michele Simionato
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The release > candidate seems to be the wrong time to > yank this out (in part because of the surprise > factor) and in part because I think the change > silently affects shelve performance so that the > impact may be si

Re: [Python-Dev] [issue3769] Deprecate bsddb for removal in 3.0

2008-09-03 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think this should be deferred to Py3.1. > This decision was not widely discussed and I think it likely that some users > will > be surprised and dismayed. Perhaps, but that could be said about almost any module that h

Re: [Python-Dev] [issue3769] Deprecate bsddb for removal in 3.0

2008-09-03 Thread Raymond Hettinger
I think this should be deferred to Py3.1. This decision was not widely discussed and I think it likely that some users will be surprised and dismayed. The release candidate seems to be the wrong time to yank this out (in part because of the surprise factor) and in part because I think the chan