Re: [Python-Dev] unittest Suggestions

2008-08-14 Thread Fred Drake
On Aug 14, 2008, at 8:13 AM, Olemis Lang wrote: What I do think is that we need a mail list (or equivalent) dedicated to discuss such things... because (again IMO) python-dev might not be It's not, but this list is the right place: http://lists.idyll.org/listinfo/testing-in-python -Fred

Re: [Python-Dev] unittest Suggestions

2008-08-14 Thread Olemis Lang
> > > > > The goal > > > should be to produce something like a unittest-ng, distribute it via > > > the Cheeseshop, and gather consensus around it for possible inclusion > > > in Python 2.7/3.1. > > > > > IMO test support in Python needs some enhancements. I also think there are great libraries av

Re: [Python-Dev] unittest Suggestions

2008-08-13 Thread John J Lee
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Antoine Pitrou wrote: [...] nose itself is not a completely independent piece of work but "a discovery-based unittest extension" (although a very big extension!). For that reason, Michael Foord's suggestion to gradually modernize and improve the stdlib unittest sounds reasona

Re: [Python-Dev] unittest Suggestions

2008-08-13 Thread Jean-Paul Calderone
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:35:15 + (UTC), Antoine Pitrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Barry Warsaw python.org> writes: The goal should be to produce something like a unittest-ng, distribute it via the Cheeseshop, and gather consensus around it for possible inclusion in Python 2.7/3.1. There is

Re: [Python-Dev] unittest Suggestions

2008-08-13 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Barry Warsaw python.org> writes: > The goal > should be to produce something like a unittest-ng, distribute it via > the Cheeseshop, and gather consensus around it for possible inclusion > in Python 2.7/3.1. There is already unittest, nose, py.test, trial... perhaps others I don't know of.

Re: [Python-Dev] unittest Suggestions

2008-08-12 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 12, 2008, at 11:13 AM, C. Titus Brown wrote: I'll forward this idea on to testing-in-python: http://lists.idyll.org/listinfo/testing-in-python where there was another bikeshed discussion about testing, a few weeks ago. That might b

Re: [Python-Dev] unittest Suggestions

2008-08-12 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 12, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Jean-Paul Calderone wrote: A SIG might be a good idea. There's also already the "testing in python" list, too: http://lists.idyll.org/listinfo/testing-in-python A lot of this discussion would be appropriate there.

Re: [Python-Dev] unittest Suggestions

2008-08-12 Thread C. Titus Brown
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:05:57AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: -> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- -> Hash: SHA1 -> -> On Aug 12, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Sebastian Rittau wrote: -> -> >[I just saw the other post about unit testing, while I was writing -> >this. -> >A strange conincidence.] -> -> I

Re: [Python-Dev] unittest Suggestions

2008-08-12 Thread Jean-Paul Calderone
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:05:57 -0400, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 12, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Sebastian Rittau wrote: [I just saw the other post about unit testing, while I was writing this. A strange conincidence.] Indeed. I've play

Re: [Python-Dev] unittest Suggestions

2008-08-12 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 12, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Sebastian Rittau wrote: [I just saw the other post about unit testing, while I was writing this. A strange conincidence.] Indeed. I've played around (again) recently with both nose and py.test, so I'd like to mak

[Python-Dev] unittest Suggestions

2008-08-12 Thread Sebastian Rittau
[I just saw the other post about unit testing, while I was writing this. A strange conincidence.] Hello, since this is the first time I post to this list, I'd like to introduce myself briefly. As you can see my name is Sebastian. I am working as a software developer both as a professional and as