On 05/07/2013 11:26, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
...
A.__getattribute__(A,'s')
A.__getattribute__(A,'c')
A.__getattribute__(A,'r')
Okay, but with this line:
found = found.__getattribute__(found, n)
I get a tonne of failures like this:
File "testfixtures.tests.test_replacer.TestRe
On Jul 4, 2013, at 2:34 AM, Brett Cannon wrote:
> The loss of the ability to figure out the class from an unbound method seems
> quite an annoying step back from an introspection point of view.
>
> It's only annoying if you take the perspective that methods are somehow
> special compared to f
On 6 Jul 2013 22:52, "Michael Foord" wrote:
>
>
> On 5 Jul 2013, at 12:26, Łukasz Langa wrote:
>
> > On 5 lip 2013, at 12:07, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
> >
> >> I wonder why you need to figure out the signatures in advance.
> >> Can you just wait until the function is actually used, and then
> >> p
On 5 Jul 2013, at 12:26, Łukasz Langa wrote:
> On 5 lip 2013, at 12:07, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
>
>> I wonder why you need to figure out the signatures in advance.
>> Can you just wait until the function is actually used, and then
>> process the parameters as you get them?
>>
>
> My guess is
On 5 Jul 2013, at 12:07, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
> Am 05.07.13 11:23, schrieb Michael Foord:
>> I've also lamented the death of bound methods in Python 3 for mock
>> "autospeccing". Autospec introspects objects and provides mock
>> objects with the same attributes - and with the same method
>>
Am 04.07.13 18:42, schrieb Chris Withers:
> Hi Guido,
>
> I've bumped into this a couple of times.
>
> First time was when I wanted to know whether what I had was a
> classmethod, staticmethod or normal method here:
>
> https://github.com/Simplistix/testfixtures/blob/master/testfixtures/replace.
On 5 lip 2013, at 12:07, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
> I wonder why you need to figure out the signatures in advance.
> Can you just wait until the function is actually used, and then
> process the parameters as you get them?
>
My guess is that Michael's design lets mock objects be introspected as w
Am 05.07.13 11:23, schrieb Michael Foord:
> I've also lamented the death of bound methods in Python 3 for mock
> "autospeccing". Autospec introspects objects and provides mock
> objects with the same attributes - and with the same method
> signatures.
I wonder why you need to figure out the signat
On 4 Jul 2013, at 19:00, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> Thanks for the code pointers. So it's all about monkeypatching. :-) I have
> only a little sympathy, as there still seems to be a way to do this, it's
> just less convenient. Too bad.
>
I've also lamented the death of bound methods in Pytho
On 04/07/2013 20:50, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
2013/7/4 Eric Snow :
You could always monkeypatch builtins.__build_class__ to add an attribute to
every "unbound method" pointing to the class.
I would not reccomend that. __build_class__ is very internal and it's
contract may change between versi
2013/7/4 Eric Snow :
>
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Chris Withers
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> In Python 2, I can figure out whether I have a method or a function, and,
>> more importantly, for an unbound method, I can figure out what class the
>> method belongs to:
>>
>> >>> class MyClass(ob
On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Chris Withers wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> In Python 2, I can figure out whether I have a method or a function, and,
> more importantly, for an unbound method, I can figure out what class the
> method belongs to:
>
> >>> class MyClass(object):
> ... def method(self): pass
On 04/07/2013 18:00, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Thanks for the code pointers. So it's all about monkeypatching. :-)
Well, that's the testfixtures use case, but for mush it's about figuring
out whether you need to instantiate a class before calling a callable.
MyClass.a_method is a bit like a fu
Thanks for the code pointers. So it's all about monkeypatching. :-) I have
only a little sympathy, as there still seems to be a way to do this, it's
just less convenient. Too bad.
--Guido
On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Chris Withers wrote:
> Hi Guido,
>
> I've bumped into this a couple of times
Hi Guido,
I've bumped into this a couple of times.
First time was when I wanted to know whether what I had was a
classmethod, staticmethod or normal method here:
https://github.com/Simplistix/testfixtures/blob/master/testfixtures/replace.py#L59
This resulted in having to trawl through __dict
Chris, what do you want to do with the knowledge you are seeking?
--Guido van Rossum (sent from Android phone)
On Jul 4, 2013 4:28 AM, "Chris Withers" wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> In Python 2, I can figure out whether I have a method or a function, and,
> more importantly, for an unbound method, I can f
2013/7/4 Chris Withers :
> That doesn't seem helpful as a sensible way to get back to the class object:
>
>>> globals()[MyClass.method.__qualname__.split('.')[0]]
>
globals() can only be used if MyClass is in the same module.
Otherwise, you a more complex function:
---
import types
d
On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Chris Withers wrote:
> On 04/07/2013 12:59, Christian Heimes wrote:
>
>> Am 04.07.2013 13:21, schrieb Chris Withers:
>>
>>> There doesn't appear to be any way in Python 3 to do this, which is a
>>> little surprising and frustrating...
>>>
>>> What am I missing here?
On 04/07/2013 12:55, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
You can find the fully qualified name of the method with the qualname attribute:
class A:
...def method(self): pass
...
A.method.__qualname__
'A.method'
That doesn't seem helpful as a sensible way to get back to the class object:
>> globals
On 04/07/2013 12:59, Christian Heimes wrote:
Am 04.07.2013 13:21, schrieb Chris Withers:
There doesn't appear to be any way in Python 3 to do this, which is a
little surprising and frustrating...
What am I missing here?
I removed unbound methods almost six years ago:
http://hg.python.org/cpy
Am 04.07.2013 13:21, schrieb Chris Withers:
> There doesn't appear to be any way in Python 3 to do this, which is a
> little surprising and frustrating...
>
> What am I missing here?
I removed unbound methods almost six years ago:
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/48af6375207e
Christian
On 4 Jul, 2013, at 13:21, Chris Withers wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> In Python 2, I can figure out whether I have a method or a function, and,
> more importantly, for an unbound method, I can figure out what class the
> method belongs to:
>
> >>> class MyClass(object):
> ... def method(self): pass
Hi All,
In Python 2, I can figure out whether I have a method or a function,
and, more importantly, for an unbound method, I can figure out what
class the method belongs to:
>>> class MyClass(object):
... def method(self): pass
...
>>> MyClass.method
>>> MyClass.method.im_class
There doe
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