Re: [Python-Dev] improving quality

2006-04-01 Thread Neal Norwitz
On 4/1/06, Michael Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know if anyone runs Python under valgrind regularly though. I do for some definition of "regularly". It would be better to setup a cron job to truly run it regularly, perhaps once a month. It should run on both HEAD and supported r

Re: [Python-Dev] improving quality

2006-04-01 Thread Michael Hudson
"Chris AtLee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 3/28/06, Neal Norwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> We've made a lot of improvement with testing over the years. >> Recently, we've gotten even more serious with the buildbot, Coverity, >> and coverage (http://coverage.livinglogic.de). However, in or

Re: [Python-Dev] improving quality

2006-03-28 Thread Thomas Wouters
On 3/28/06, Chris AtLee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 3/28/06, Neal Norwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> We've made a lot of improvement with testing over the years.> Recently, we've gotten even more serious with the buildbot, Coverity, > and coverage (http://coverage.livinglogic.de).  However, in o

Re: [Python-Dev] improving quality

2006-03-28 Thread Chris AtLee
On 3/28/06, Neal Norwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We've made a lot of improvement with testing over the years. > Recently, we've gotten even more serious with the buildbot, Coverity, > and coverage (http://coverage.livinglogic.de). However, in order to > improve quality even further, we need t

Re: [Python-Dev] improving quality

2006-03-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 18:00 +1100, Anthony Baxter wrote: > On Tuesday 28 March 2006 17:53, Neal Norwitz wrote: > > In order to do the best possible job and avoid silly errors, there > > shouldn't be any checkins which could change behaviour that do not > > include a test. I'm not talking about upd

Re: [Python-Dev] improving quality

2006-03-27 Thread Tim Peters
[Neal Norwitz] ... > If you really can't figure out any way to test the change, please > describe why in your checkin message. Just make sure it's true. It > would be quite embarrassing to have your whole theory trashed when > Uncle Timmy comes along 5 minutes later and checks in the test you > j

Re: [Python-Dev] improving quality

2006-03-27 Thread Anthony Baxter
On Tuesday 28 March 2006 17:53, Neal Norwitz wrote: > In order to do the best possible job and avoid silly errors, there > shouldn't be any checkins which could change behaviour that do not > include a test. I'm not talking about updating comments or string > constants. But even trivial changes c

[Python-Dev] improving quality

2006-03-27 Thread Neal Norwitz
We've made a lot of improvement with testing over the years. Recently, we've gotten even more serious with the buildbot, Coverity, and coverage (http://coverage.livinglogic.de). However, in order to improve quality even further, we need to do a little more work. This is especially important with