Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-14 Thread Zachary Ware
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Brian Curtin wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: >> Now that no warnings is a serious goal for 3.4+, I will report them should >> they recur. > > If we're at no warnings, and no warnings is a serious goal, warnings > should be errors. I'

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-14 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
14.03.14 07:59, Brian Curtin написав(ла): On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: Now that no warnings is a serious goal for 3.4+, I will report them should they recur. If we're at no warnings, and no warnings is a serious goal, warnings should be errors. Sources still are not C

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-13 Thread Brian Curtin
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 3/13/2014 7:34 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> >> Christian Heimes writes: >> >> > But I don't want it to sound like an advert... Suggestions? >> >> Not to worry. It *can't* be an advert -- it's all true, and there are >> no irrelevant

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-13 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Georg Brandl writes: > I think Chris meant he'd sound like an ad for Coverity. Oh, that. IIRC, we pay them nothing for the service. I know that they do it in part for commercial reasons and that it undoubtedly doesn't cost them a lot, but nonetheless it is a benefit that wouldn't hurt for ackn

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-13 Thread Terry Reedy
On 3/13/2014 7:34 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Christian Heimes writes: > But I don't want it to sound like an advert... Suggestions? Not to worry. It *can't* be an advert -- it's all true, and there are no irrelevant half-naked glistening bodies. (Former newts in the pond don't count.)

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-13 Thread R. David Murray
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:23:14 -0500, "Andrew M. Hettinger" wrote: > Antoine Pitrou wrote on 03/13/2014 01:46:12 PM: > > On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 14:57:41 +0100 > > Victor Stinner wrote: > > > 2014-03-13 11:49 GMT+01:00 Christian Heimes : > > > > * All stdlib modules now support server cert verificati

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-13 Thread Andrew M. Hettinger
Antoine Pitrou wrote on 03/13/2014 01:46:12 PM: > On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 14:57:41 +0100 > Victor Stinner wrote: > > 2014-03-13 11:49 GMT+01:00 Christian Heimes : > > > * All stdlib modules now support server cert verification including > > > hostname matching and CRL. > > > > > > * http://bugs.py

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-13 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 14:57:41 +0100 Victor Stinner wrote: > 2014-03-13 11:49 GMT+01:00 Christian Heimes : > > * All stdlib modules now support server cert verification including > > hostname matching and CRL. > > > > * http://bugs.python.org/issue16499 isolated mode is a security > > improvement, t

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-13 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 13.03.2014 12:34, schrieb Stephen J. Turnbull: > Christian Heimes writes: > > > But I don't want it to sound like an advert... Suggestions? > > Not to worry. It *can't* be an advert -- it's all true, and there are > no irrelevant half-naked glistening bodies. (Former newts in the pond > don

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-13 Thread Victor Stinner
2014-03-13 11:49 GMT+01:00 Christian Heimes : > * All stdlib modules now support server cert verification including > hostname matching and CRL. > > * http://bugs.python.org/issue16499 isolated mode is a security > improvement, too. Ok, I added these two items. Antoine wrote: > CRL? really? I don

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-13 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le 13/03/2014 11:49, Christian Heimes a écrit : Thanks a lot David and Victor! The list of security improvements is missing one, maybe two points that are IMHO relevant: * All stdlib modules now support server cert verification including hostname matching and CRL. CRL? really? I don't remember

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-13 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Christian Heimes writes: > But I don't want it to sound like an advert... Suggestions? Not to worry. It *can't* be an advert -- it's all true, and there are no irrelevant half-naked glistening bodies. (Former newts in the pond don't count.) Seriously, while "expect a clean build" is not "news

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-13 Thread Christian Heimes
On 11.03.2014 13:18, Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks David! I added a summary of security improvements: > http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/3.4.html#summary-release-highlights > > Can someone please review it? Don't hesitate to modify the text > directly. Check also if the summary is com

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-11 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 12 Mar 2014 02:21, "Eric V. Smith" wrote: > > On 3/11/2014 9:05 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > > 2014-03-11 13:28 GMT+01:00 Nick Coghlan : > >> I was thinking of adding a new "Migrating from Python 2" section at > >> the end of the porting guide, noting the changed recommendations in > >> the migr

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-11 Thread Eric V. Smith
On 3/11/2014 9:05 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > 2014-03-11 13:28 GMT+01:00 Nick Coghlan : >> I was thinking of adding a new "Migrating from Python 2" section at >> the end of the porting guide, noting the changed recommendations in >> the migration guide (i.e. people that read it a while ago should r

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-11 Thread Victor Stinner
2014-03-11 13:28 GMT+01:00 Nick Coghlan : > I was thinking of adding a new "Migrating from Python 2" section at > the end of the porting guide, noting the changed recommendations in > the migration guide (i.e. people that read it a while ago should read > it again), as well as the restoration of th

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-11 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 11 March 2014 12:05, R. David Murray wrote: > In addition to the items in Serhiy's list that didn't have news entries, > there were a couple of features that were added after Beta1. So there > might be some other features with missing versionadded/changed tags in > the NEWS sections I didn't g

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-11 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, Thanks David! I added a summary of security improvements: http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/3.4.html#summary-release-highlights Can someone please review it? Don't hesitate to modify the text directly. Check also if the summary is complete. Victor 2014-03-11 3:05 GMT+01:00 R. David Murray

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-10 Thread Eric Snow
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 8:05 PM, R. David Murray wrote: > Well, I think What's New for 3.4 is done. I've been through all of the > NEWS items from the start of 3.4 through the beta1 release. > > I'm pretty much out of time for this project since > Final is almost upon us. I'll be making at least

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-10 Thread Eric V. Smith
Thanks for all of the great work! -- Eric. > On Mar 10, 2014, at 10:05 PM, "R. David Murray" wrote: > > Well, I think What's New for 3.4 is done. I've been through all of the > NEWS items from the start of 3.4 through the beta1 release. I've gone > over the list of changes Serhiy found via th

[Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-10 Thread R. David Murray
Well, I think What's New for 3.4 is done. I've been through all of the NEWS items from the start of 3.4 through the beta1 release. I've gone over the list of changes Serhiy found via the versionadded/versionchanged in the docs. (Since he marked some that didn't turn out to be 3.4 changes, I assu