Re: [Python-Dev] What's New text on future maintenance

2010-05-10 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 06, 2010, at 09:33 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: >I don't think there's any point in being hypothetical about. I believe >we've already said that maintence for 2.7 will last for at least 5 >years, so let's proclaim it. +1. If our goal is to move our community to Python 3, then I think we d

Re: [Python-Dev] What's New text on future maintenance

2010-05-07 Thread Nick Coghlan
A.M. Kuchling wrote: > On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 07:52:49PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> 3.x). I'll take a stab at a more accurate rationale: > > Thanks! I've applied the scalpel and reduced it to: I saw this go by on the checkin list - looks good (although Philip is right about mentioning PYTHON

Re: [Python-Dev] What's New text on future maintenance

2010-05-07 Thread Martin v. Löwis
A.M. Kuchling wrote: > On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 09:30:00AM +0200, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >> I agree with Terry: how did you arrive at the 4 years for 2.x releases? >> Bug fixes releases stopped after the next feature release being made, >> which gave (counting between initial release and last bug

Re: [Python-Dev] What's New text on future maintenance

2010-05-07 Thread Philip Jenvey
On May 7, 2010, at 9:09 AM, A.M. Kuchling wrote: > You can re-enable display of :exc:`DeprecationWarning` messages by > running Python with the :option:`-Wdefault` (short form: > :option:`-Wd`) switch, or you can add > ``warnings.simplefilter('default')`` to your code. The new PYTHONWARNINGS

Re: [Python-Dev] What's New text on future maintenance

2010-05-07 Thread Brett Cannon
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 09:09, A.M. Kuchling wrote: > On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 07:52:49PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > 3.x). I'll take a stab at a more accurate rationale: > > Thanks! I've applied the scalpel and reduced it to: > > * A policy decision was made to silence warnings only of interes

Re: [Python-Dev] What's New text on future maintenance

2010-05-07 Thread A.M. Kuchling
On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 07:52:49PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > 3.x). I'll take a stab at a more accurate rationale: Thanks! I've applied the scalpel and reduced it to: * A policy decision was made to silence warnings only of interest to developers by default. :exc:`DeprecationWarning` and it

Re: [Python-Dev] What's New text on future maintenance

2010-05-07 Thread A.M. Kuchling
On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 09:30:00AM +0200, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > I agree with Terry: how did you arrive at the 4 years for 2.x releases? > Bug fixes releases stopped after the next feature release being made, > which gave (counting between initial release and last bug fix release): I used the

Re: [Python-Dev] What's New text on future maintenance

2010-05-07 Thread Nick Coghlan
Terry Reedy wrote: > Then the warnings stuff >> >> * Because 2.7 will be running production applications, a policy > > Every major version (xcept 3.0) has run production application, and 3.1 > may be and 3.2 certainly will be. So this reasoning is not clear to me. > >>decision was made to sil

Re: [Python-Dev] What's New text on future maintenance

2010-05-07 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> * It's very likely the 2.7 release will have a longer period of > maintenance compared to earlier 2.x versions. Python 2.7 will > continue to be maintained while the transition to 3.x is in > progress, and that transition will itself be lengthy. Most 2.x > versions are maintained for ab

Re: [Python-Dev] What's New text on future maintenance

2010-05-06 Thread Terry Reedy
On 5/6/2010 9:50 PM, A.M. Kuchling wrote: FYI: I've just added the text below to the "What's New" document for 2.7. I wanted to describe how 2.7 will probably be maintained, but didn't want to write anything that sounded like an iron-clad guarantee of a maintenance timespan. Does this text seem

Re: [Python-Dev] What's New text on future maintenance

2010-05-06 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2010/5/6 A.M. Kuchling : > FYI: I've just added the text below to the "What's New" document for > 2.7.  I wanted to describe how 2.7 will probably be maintained, but > didn't want to write anything that sounded like an iron-clad guarantee > of a maintenance timespan.  Does this text seem like a rea

Re: [Python-Dev] What's New text on future maintenance

2010-05-06 Thread Ben Finney
"A.M. Kuchling" writes: > FYI: I've just added the text below to the "What's New" document for > 2.7. I wanted to describe how 2.7 will probably be maintained, but > didn't want to write anything that sounded like an iron-clad guarantee > of a maintenance timespan. Does this text seem like a reas

Re: [Python-Dev] What's New text on future maintenance

2010-05-06 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:50 PM, A.M. Kuchling wrote: > FYI: I've just added the text below to the "What's New" document for > 2.7.  I wanted to describe how 2.7 will probably be maintained, but > didn't want to write anything that sounded like an iron-clad guarantee > of a maintenance timespan.  D

[Python-Dev] What's New text on future maintenance

2010-05-06 Thread A.M. Kuchling
FYI: I've just added the text below to the "What's New" document for 2.7. I wanted to describe how 2.7 will probably be maintained, but didn't want to write anything that sounded like an iron-clad guarantee of a maintenance timespan. Does this text seem like a reasonable set of statements? --amk