Re: [Python-Dev] Visual studio 2005 express now free

2006-05-08 Thread Christos Georgiou
""Martin v. Löwis"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > - Paul Moore has contributed a Python build procedure for the > free version of the 2003 compiler. This one is without IDE, > but still, it should allow people without a VS 2003 license > to work on Python itsel

Re: [Python-Dev] Visual studio 2005 express now free

2006-04-26 Thread Ben . Young
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 25/04/2006 13:22:27: > "Neil Hodgson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Martin v. Löwis: > > > >> Apparently, the status of this changed right now: it seems that > >> the 2003 compiler is not available anymore; the page now says > >> that it was replaced with the 2005

Re: [Python-Dev] Visual studio 2005 express now free

2006-04-25 Thread Michael Hudson
"Neil Hodgson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Martin v. Löwis: > >> Apparently, the status of this changed right now: it seems that >> the 2003 compiler is not available anymore; the page now says >> that it was replaced with the 2005 compiler. >> >> Should we reconsider? > >I expect Microsoft

Re: [Python-Dev] Visual studio 2005 express now free

2006-04-24 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Terry Reedy wrote: > Since, as I remember, there was no license agreement for the download, just > for the install (if/when I do it), I should think it legal to send the file > to someone else. But I don't really know, of course. Going by the download page for 2005, it does not have any restric

Re: [Python-Dev] Visual studio 2005 express now free

2006-04-24 Thread Terry Reedy
""Martin v. Löwis"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sure: they will remove download access to VS 2005 when VS 2007 > comes available. Still, VS 2005 is available for download right > now, and VS 2003 isn't (anymore). Just yesterday, I downloaded the 2003 Toolkit usi

Re: [Python-Dev] Visual studio 2005 express now free

2006-04-24 Thread Martin v. Löwis
John J Lee wrote: > Actually, it's apparently still there, just at a different URL. > Somebody posted the new URL on c.l.py a day or two back (Alex Martelli > started the thread, IIRC). I'm off to the dentist, no time to Google > for it! Please do. If you find the URL, please post it here. All U

Re: [Python-Dev] Visual studio 2005 express now free

2006-04-24 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Alex Martelli wrote: > For the Toolkit 2003: > http://tinyurl.com/gv8wr When I go to this URL, I get redirected to http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=272BE09D-40BB-4&displaylang=en This doesn't look right - it ought to be a UUID. Anyway, I get a page that reads "The downlo

Re: [Python-Dev] Visual studio 2005 express now free

2006-04-24 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Neil Hodgson wrote: >I expect Microsoft means that Visual Studio Express will be > available free forever, not that you will always be able to download > Visual Studio 2005 Express. They normally only provide a particular > product version for a limited time after it has been superceded. Sure:

Re: [Python-Dev] Visual studio 2005 express now free

2006-04-24 Thread Alex Martelli
On Apr 24, 2006, at 1:24 AM, Paul Moore wrote: > On 4/24/06, Neil Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Martin v. Löwis: >> >>> Apparently, the status of this changed right now: it seems that >>> the 2003 compiler is not available anymore; the page now says >>> that it was replaced with the 2005

Re: [Python-Dev] Visual studio 2005 express now free

2006-04-24 Thread Alex Martelli
On Apr 24, 2006, at 12:48 AM, Neil Hodgson wrote: > Martin v. Löwis: > >> Apparently, the status of this changed right now: it seems that >> the 2003 compiler is not available anymore; the page now says >> that it was replaced with the 2005 compiler. >> >> Should we reconsider? > >I expect Mi

Re: [Python-Dev] Visual studio 2005 express now free

2006-04-24 Thread Alex Martelli
On Apr 24, 2006, at 12:19 AM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > Martin v. Löwis wrote: >> - Paul Moore has contributed a Python build procedure for the >> free version of the 2003 compiler. This one is without IDE, >> but still, it should allow people without a VS 2003 license >> to work on Python i

Re: [Python-Dev] Visual studio 2005 express now free

2006-04-24 Thread Alex Martelli
On Apr 24, 2006, at 5:13 AM, John J Lee wrote: > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006, Paul Moore wrote: >> On 4/24/06, Neil Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Martin v. Löwis: >>> Apparently, the status of this changed right now: it seems that the 2003 compiler is not available anymore; the page no

Re: [Python-Dev] Visual studio 2005 express now free

2006-04-24 Thread John J Lee
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006, Paul Moore wrote: On 4/24/06, Neil Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Martin v. Löwis: Apparently, the status of this changed right now: it seems that the 2003 compiler is not available anymore; the page now says that it was replaced with the 2005 compiler. Should we reco

Re: [Python-Dev] Visual studio 2005 express now free

2006-04-24 Thread Paul Moore
On 4/24/06, Neil Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin v. Löwis: > > > Apparently, the status of this changed right now: it seems that > > the 2003 compiler is not available anymore; the page now says > > that it was replaced with the 2005 compiler. > > > > Should we reconsider? > >I expe

Re: [Python-Dev] Visual studio 2005 express now free

2006-04-24 Thread Neil Hodgson
Martin v. Löwis: > Apparently, the status of this changed right now: it seems that > the 2003 compiler is not available anymore; the page now says > that it was replaced with the 2005 compiler. > > Should we reconsider? I expect Microsoft means that Visual Studio Express will be available free

Re: [Python-Dev] Visual studio 2005 express now free

2006-04-24 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > - Paul Moore has contributed a Python build procedure for the > free version of the 2003 compiler. This one is without IDE, > but still, it should allow people without a VS 2003 license > to work on Python itself; it should also be possible to develop > extensions w

Re: [Python-Dev] Visual studio 2005 express now free

2006-04-21 Thread Paul Moore
On 4/21/06, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Paul Moore has contributed a Python build procedure for the > free version of the 2003 compiler. This one is without IDE, > but still, it should allow people without a VS 2003 license > to work on Python itself; it should also be po

Re: [Python-Dev] Visual studio 2005 express now free

2006-04-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Giovanni Bajo wrote: > It's been possible to compile distutils extensions with the VS 2003 toolkit > for far longer than it's possible to compile Python itself: > http://www.vrplumber.com/programming/mstoolkit/ Sure: with distutils modifications. > In fact, it would be great if the patches provid

Re: [Python-Dev] Visual studio 2005 express now free

2006-04-21 Thread Giovanni Bajo
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > - Paul Moore has contributed a Python build procedure for the > free version of the 2003 compiler. This one is without IDE, > but still, it should allow people without a VS 2003 license > to work on Python itself; it should also be possible to develop > extensions

Re: [Python-Dev] Visual studio 2005 express now free

2006-04-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Guido van Rossum wrote: > Microsoft just announced that Visual Studio 2005 express will be free > forever, including the IDE and the optimizing C++ compiler. (Not > included in the "forever" clause are VS 2007 or later versions.) > > Does this make a difference for Python development for Windows?

[Python-Dev] Visual studio 2005 express now free

2006-04-21 Thread Guido van Rossum
Microsoft just announced that Visual Studio 2005 express will be free forever, including the IDE and the optimizing C++ compiler. (Not included in the "forever" clause are VS 2007 or later versions.) Does this make a difference for Python development for Windows? http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio