Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-22 Thread Rodrigo Bernardo Pimentel
[Sorry for stepping in so late] On Thu, Feb 12 2009 at 02:05:23PM BRST, "Daniel (ajax) Diniz" wrote: > Victor Stinner wrote: > > Oh, I realized that there is a component called "Unicode". So it should be > > possible to write a request to list all issues related to unicode. > > Nice, I'll add s

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-14 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> But no way to share aggregated search results (I've sent some > off-list), 'follow' users (i.e., be added as nosy for issues where > user A is nosy), auto-add as nosy based on keywords, etc. Someday we > could have these nosy features hosted externally, e.g. as an AppEngine > app that subscribes

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: > Status report and roadmap to be posted later today, before date +%s > turns 1234567890 :) Missed that and got almost no tracker work done. Postponed to Monday, after some weekend cleaning. Daniel ___ Python-Dev mailing list

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Hi Martin, Sorry about being so brief, I got a lot of unexpected interruptions and was rushing things. "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >> For starters, free form searches, aggregation and filtering of >> results. > > What is "free form searches" (example)? What is aggregation? > What results do you want

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Send emails before they were done :D Again: what's that? > Use a VCS for in-progress activities Hmm. Why do you need a database copy for that? > Figure out how to serialize and submit the work done locally Again, don't understand. too brief. > Share results with interested parties off-t

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> For starters, free form searches, aggregation and filtering of > results. What is "free form searches" (example)? What is aggregation? What results do you want to filter? (roundup can already filter results quite well) > The web interface is pretty good for handling individual > issues, but not

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Steve Holden wrote: > Can I just say (without in any way wanting to get involved in what might > be considered as "work") that it's encouraging the tracker received a > bit more TLC we might eventually be able to see at least the occasional > week where the issue count increment was negative :) Th

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Brett Cannon wrote: > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 16:45, Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: >> I have to test my patch against a good >> representation of the issue, regression tests must pass, 'automated >> test needed' fits well :) > > Go with "Unit test needed" so it's short and to the point and you have a

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: > "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >> I think HTML scraping is a really bad idea. What is it that you >> specifically want to do with these data? > > For starters, free form searches, aggregation and filtering of > results. The web interface is pretty good for handling individual

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-13 Thread Georg Brandl
Daniel (ajax) Diniz schrieb: > Over-spammig: > Sorry, Georg! I only noticed all issues in the Documentation > component are auto-assigned to you today. This meant dozens of unasked > for assignments :-/ That's okay, I'll go through them at the weekend and just unassign what I won't manage to do

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: > "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >>> Now, getting into pie-in-the-sky territory, if someone (not logged in) >>> was to download all issues for scrapping and feeding to a local >>> database, what time of day would be less disastrous for the server? :) >> >> I think HTML scrapin

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
"Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >> Now, getting into pie-in-the-sky territory, if someone (not logged in) >> was to download all issues for scrapping and feeding to a local >> database, what time of day would be less disastrous for the server? :) > > I think HTML scraping is a really bad idea. What is it

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Now, getting into pie-in-the-sky territory, if someone (not logged in) > was to download all issues for scrapping and feeding to a local > database, what time of day would be less disastrous for the server? :) I think HTML scraping is a really bad idea. What is it that you specifically want to

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Steve Holden
Brett Cannon wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 16:45, Daniel (ajax) Diniz > wrote: > > Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Reproduction really is the same thing as providing a test. > > That was where I got confused: many issues are easy to reproduce > ('

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Brett Cannon
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 16:45, Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: > Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Reproduction really is the same thing as providing a test. > > That was where I got confused: many issues are easy to reproduce > ('test'), but need some thinking to get automated tests right. > > urllib al

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Reproduction really is the same thing as providing a test. That was where I got confused: many issues are easy to reproduce ('test'), but need some thinking to get automated tests right. urllib always feels like this to me, except 'thinking' -> 'getting lost over and

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Brett Cannon
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 16:22, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Brett Cannon writes: > > > Sounds like a "*verify issue* stage is needed. Although I guess I kind > of > > assumed as part of the triage issue verification would happen as well, > but > > that might be too much as a single step. > > Ar

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brett Cannon writes: > Sounds like a "*verify issue* stage is needed. Although I guess I kind of > assumed as part of the triage issue verification would happen as well, but > that might be too much as a single step. Are you confusing "reproduce" with "verify"? Remember, one of the three clas

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Martin v. Löwis wrote: >>> Oh, I realized that there is a component called "Unicode". So it should be >>> possible to write a request to list all issues related to unicode. >> >> Nice, I'll add set this component for issues that don't have it. I can >> still add people to these issues, if they want

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Brett Cannon wrote: > Sounds like a "*verify issue* stage is needed. Although I guess I kind of > assumed as part of the triage issue verification would happen as well, but > that might be too much as a single step. I'd rather think about it a bit more, available stages cover the vast majority of

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Martin v. Löwis
>> Oh, I realized that there is a component called "Unicode". So it should be >> possible to write a request to list all issues related to unicode. > > Nice, I'll add set this component for issues that don't have it. I can > still add people to these issues, if they want. We can also add more com

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Brett Cannon
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 05:08, Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: > Brett Cannon wrote: > > One thing to keep an eye on for old issues, Daniel, is the Stage > > field. Setting that is nice for Bug Days as people can see what > > issues still need a test written or could use a review, etc. > > OK, I'll tr

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Victor Stinner wrote: > Oh, I realized that there is a component called "Unicode". So it should be > possible to write a request to list all issues related to unicode. Nice, I'll add set this component for issues that don't have it. I can still add people to these issues, if they want. Daniel ___

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Victor Stinner
Le Thursday 12 February 2009 14:10:32, vous avez écrit : > Victor Stinner wrote: > > I like everything related to Unicode and the separation of byte and > > character strings in Python3 :-) > > That's a big one. But Ezio Melotti already asked for Unicode, so I > have some 75 issues selected and re

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Victor Stinner wrote: > I like everything related to Unicode and the separation of byte and character > strings in Python3 :-) That's a big one. But Ezio Melotti already asked for Unicode, so I have some 75 issues selected and ready to add you two to, but I'll do it later today or after 3.0.1 tom

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Senthil Kumaran wrote: > For urllib,urllib2 and urlparse related, please add me (orsenthil) to > nosy list. I should already there. > I shall test and provide patches. Great! I always find it harder to test urllib[x] than to fix the bug. I'm in the process of gluing some tools and scripts together

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Brett Cannon wrote: > One thing to keep an eye on for old issues, Daniel, is the Stage > field. Setting that is nice for Bug Days as people can see what > issues still need a test written or could use a review, etc. OK, I'll try to set a useful Stage for bugs I edit. I'll reread your blog post on

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-12 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi Daniel, > Good: > Many requested assignments: > Thanks everyone that asked for bugs. If anyone else wants more, > just let me know :) I like everything related to Unicode and the separation of byte and character strings in Python3 :-) I already have some pending issues.. -- Victor St

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-11 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 4:11 AM, Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: > > Now will I'll start verifying, adding tests, updating or closing as > needed the recently changed old issues, until I've taken a good look > at these. Then, if there's still time left before Saturday, I'll focus > on verifying/flaggi

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-11 Thread Terry Reedy
Jim Baker wrote: +1 on the cleanup: reading the bug description of http://bugs.python.org/issue1533164, this will also help Jython. Now I know why we see scenarios of package with setup.cfg with optimize=1: Indeed, this is a well-known issue. Many packages put an "optimize=1" in their setup.cf

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-11 Thread Jim Baker
+1 on the cleanup: reading the bug description of http://bugs.python.org/issue1533164, this will also help Jython. Now I know why we see scenarios of package with setup.cfg with optimize=1: Indeed, this is a well-known issue. Many packages put an "optimize=1" in their setup.cfg in order to solve i

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-11 Thread Brett Cannon
2009/2/11 Daniel (ajax) Diniz > Hi, > > Here's a status report about the digging. Thanks Benjamin, Antoine, > Martin, Raymond, Guilherme, Georg, Brett, Mark and everyone else for > helping :) > > Good: > Many requested assignments: >Thanks everyone that asked for bugs. If anyone else wants

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-11 Thread Raymond Hettinger
[Daniel (ajax) Diniz] Now will I'll start verifying, adding tests, updating or closing as needed the recently changed old issues, until I've taken a good look at these. Then, if there's still time left before Saturday, I'll focus on verifying/flagging more ancient ones. Thanks for your effort

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-11 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Hi, Here's a status report about the digging. Thanks Benjamin, Antoine, Martin, Raymond, Guilherme, Georg, Brett, Mark and everyone else for helping :) Good: Many requested assignments: Thanks everyone that asked for bugs. If anyone else wants more, just let me know :) Old issues closed

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-11 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Stephen Thorne wrote: > On 2009-02-10, Tarek Ziadé wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Daniel (ajax) Diniz >> wrote: >> >> > >> > If anyone is interested in being added as nosy for any category of >> > bugs, let me know and I'll do that as I scan the trac

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Benjamin Peterson wrote: > Adding/assigning to me on 2to3 bugs is fine, but usually I notice > stuff I'm interested in as it rises to the top. Done, found a couple more. There are also some -3 warnings open, if that interests you :) Thanks for the support, I only saw it was a +10 now :D Cheers,

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Tarek Ziadé wrote: > I'll take Distutils related issues, Done. Since Akira Kitada is helping with many distutils issues, I'll skip looking at them for now. Ping me if you need tests or simple patches :) Regards, Daniel ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Brett Cannon wrote: > Warnings and import for me. Done. Tomorrow I'll see what I can triage/test in those. >> Talking about Bug Days, I see lots of easy bugs, some with outdated >> patches. Is there any plan of doing a Bug Day around PyCon time? > > Well, the sprints at PyCon are Bug Days themsel

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Stephen Thorne
On 2009-02-10, Tarek Ziadé wrote: > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: > > > > > If anyone is interested in being added as nosy for any category of > > bugs, let me know and I'll do that as I scan the tracker. > > I'll take Distutils related issues, If you could look at

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Brett Cannon wrote: > OK, three enthusiastic votes to give them is plenty for me. You should have > the Developer role now, Daniel. Let me know if I screwed up at all in > switchng the role on for you. Thanks a lot! Looks like it worked fine :) Let me try the new thing, then: warnings and impor

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: > > If anyone is interested in being added as nosy for any category of > bugs, let me know and I'll do that as I scan the tracker. I'll take Distutils related issues, Thank you Tarek ___ Pyt

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 05:23, Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: > [SNIP] > Iff this kind of Bug-Day-ish work is desirable, doesn't disrupt real > work and people agree the workflow would be better, I'd like to have > developer rights in the tracker, as per Antoine's suggestion. FWIW, I > have no proble

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: > If anyone is interested in being added as nosy for any category of > bugs, let me know and I'll do that as I scan the tracker. Adding/assigning to me on 2to3 bugs is fine, but usually I notice stuff I'm interested in as it rises to the

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 05:23, Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: > Hi all, > > For the past two days I've been doing some housekeeping > *cough*spamming*cough* on the tracker, mostly on ancient and/or easy > bugs. So far, ten bugs have been closed (thanks Antoine, Barry, > Benjamin, Guilherme, Martin an

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Mark Dickinson
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: > If anyone is interested in being added as nosy for any category of > bugs, let me know and I'll do that as I scan the tracker. Feel free to assign anything math-related (math and cmath modules, float and complex objects) to me. Thanks

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Guido van Rossum
Thanks Daniel! This kind of work is never fun but very much needed and I'm very glad you did it. A round of applause!! On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: > Hi all, > > For the past two days I've been doing some housekeeping > *cough*spamming*cough* on the tracker, mostly

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Facundo Batista
2009/2/10 Daniel (ajax) Diniz : > If anyone is interested in being added as nosy for any category of > bugs, let me know and I'll do that as I scan the tracker. Anything related to Decimal, add me. Thanks! -- .Facundo Blog: http://www.taniquetil.com.ar/plog/ PyAr: http://www.python.org/ar

[Python-Dev] Tracker archeology

2009-02-10 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Hi all, For the past two days I've been doing some housekeeping *cough*spamming*cough* on the tracker, mostly on ancient and/or easy bugs. So far, ten bugs have been closed (thanks Antoine, Barry, Benjamin, Guilherme, Martin and Raymond). I nominated some other bugs (below) for closing and added a