[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty

2019-06-08 Thread Ned Deily
On Jun 8, 2019, at 13:01, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 19:03:50 -0400 > Ned Deily wrote: >> This worked for mamy years. I believe the issue is that the process relied >> on the old Subversion source web viewer which has more recently been retired. > > No, it used to work *without

[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty

2019-06-08 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 19:03:50 -0400 Ned Deily wrote: > On Jun 7, 2019, at 18:03, Victor Stinner wrote: > > I am not sure that we are good at archiving. > > I'm not sure what this has to do with mailing list URLs but ... > > > Example with Subversion links in the bug tracker: > > > > https://bu

[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty

2019-06-07 Thread Ned Deily
On Jun 7, 2019, at 18:03, Victor Stinner wrote: > I am not sure that we are good at archiving. I'm not sure what this has to do with mailing list URLs but ... > Example with Subversion links in the bug tracker: > > https://bugs.python.org/issue2001#msg123254 > > "Added the missing CSS file in

[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty

2019-06-07 Thread Victor Stinner
I am not sure that we are good at archiving. Example with Subversion links in the bug tracker: https://bugs.python.org/issue2001#msg123254 "Added the missing CSS file in r86971." The revision link is: https://hg.python.org/lookup/r86971 Which redirects to the following HTTP 404 (not found) erro

[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty

2019-06-07 Thread Gregory P. Smith
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 6:19 AM Victor Stinner wrote: > Le jeu. 6 juin 2019 à 14:18, Steven D'Aprano a > écrit : > > i.e. 25-40% longer. Is there a shorter permalink form available, like > > goo.gl, bitly, youtu.be etc use? That would be awesome if we could use > > them instead. > > I really disl

[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty

2019-06-07 Thread Abhilash Raj
Wes Turner wrote: > Thanks for getting these upgraded. IMHO, being able to copy URLs from list > message footers as references in e.g. issues will be a great boost in > productivity. This is possible to do using "$hyperkitty_url" in the message footer. You can request the list owners to add that.

[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty

2019-06-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jun 6, 2019, at 23:50, Wes Turner wrote: > > Thanks for getting these upgraded. IMHO, being able to copy URLs from list > message footers as references in e.g. issues will be a great boost in > productivity. Just FYI, these URLs are a “standard" we proposed many years ago, with discussions

[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty

2019-06-06 Thread Wes Turner
Thanks for getting these upgraded. IMHO, being able to copy URLs from list message footers as references in e.g. issues will be a great boost in productivity. On Friday, June 7, 2019, Stephen J. Turnbull < turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > Barry Warsaw writes: > > On Jun 6, 2019, at

[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty

2019-06-06 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 4:30 PM Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > They could, however be made more friendly than they currently are. > There's no reason (in principle, of course it requires changing code > and the DNS) why your message, currently given the Archived-At URL > > https://mail.python.org/arc

[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty

2019-06-06 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Barry Warsaw writes: > On Jun 6, 2019, at 09:15, David Mertz wrote: > > > > The old URL is definitely a lot friendlier, even apart from the length. > > Unfortunately, the old URLs aren’t really permanent. True. That could be addressed in theory, but it would be fragile (ie, vulnerable to

[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty

2019-06-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jun 6, 2019, at 09:15, David Mertz wrote: > > The old URL is definitely a lot friendlier, even apart from the length. Unfortunately, the old URLs aren’t really permanent. Hypermail calculated them sequentially and if you rebuild the archive from the source-of-truth mbox files, there’s no w

[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty

2019-06-06 Thread David Mertz
The old URL is definitely a lot friendlier, even apart from the length. I know at a glance the month and list where the thread occurred, which is perhaps the most important metadata. In the new link I only know what mailing list it happened on, and nothing else meaningful. On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 8:2

[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty

2019-06-06 Thread Victor Stinner
Le jeu. 6 juin 2019 à 14:18, Steven D'Aprano a écrit : > i.e. 25-40% longer. Is there a shorter permalink form available, like > goo.gl, bitly, youtu.be etc use? That would be awesome if we could use > them instead. I really dislike URL shorteners. From my point of view, URL shorteners are the o

[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty

2019-06-06 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 11:08:13AM +0200, Victor Stinner wrote: > Enhancements: > * More reliable "permalink" URLs to emails This is excellent... but the old pipermail URLs were typically something like 70-80 characters, which means they fit nicely into emails (and comments in source code). H

[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty

2019-06-05 Thread Carol Willing
Barry Warsaw wrote on 6/5/19 10:56 AM: On Jun 5, 2019, at 02:08, Victor Stinner wrote: Our kind postmasters Mark Sapiro and Abhilash Raj migrated python-ideas and python-dev mailing lists from Mailman 2 to Mailman 3 (running on Python 3 ;-))! Gosh, it warms my heart. :) Thank you Mark, Abhi

[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty

2019-06-05 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jun 5, 2019, at 02:08, Victor Stinner wrote: > > Our kind postmasters Mark Sapiro and Abhilash Raj migrated > python-ideas and python-dev mailing lists from Mailman 2 to Mailman 3 > (running on Python 3 ;-))! Gosh, it warms my heart. :) Thank you Mark, Abhilash! -Barry signature.asc Descr

[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty

2019-06-05 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 11:08:13AM +0200, Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > Our kind postmasters Mark Sapiro and Abhilash Raj migrated > python-ideas and python-dev mailing lists from Mailman 2 to Mailman 3 > (running on Python 3 ;-))! Great! But email footers are currently broken: > Python-Dev m

[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty

2019-06-05 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
05.06.19 13:52, Serhiy Storchaka пише: 05.06.19 12:08, Victor Stinner пише: Our kind postmasters Mark Sapiro and Abhilash Raj migrated python-ideas and python-dev mailing lists from Mailman 2 to Mailman 3 (running on Python 3 ;-))! You can now enjoy HyperKitty, the new web UI to access the mail

[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty

2019-06-05 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
05.06.19 12:08, Victor Stinner пише: Our kind postmasters Mark Sapiro and Abhilash Raj migrated python-ideas and python-dev mailing lists from Mailman 2 to Mailman 3 (running on Python 3 ;-))! You can now enjoy HyperKitty, the new web UI to access the mailing lists: https://mail.python.org/a