[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 581 has been updated with "Downsides of GitHub" section

2019-07-02 Thread Greg Ewing
Gregory P. Smith wrote: But a /separate/ issue is that we /should not try/ to cater to people who cannot use a modern up to date self updating trustworthy web browser. If developers really want people to keep their systems secure, they need to provide updates that *only* fix security issues, an

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 581 has been updated with "Downsides of GitHub" section

2019-07-02 Thread Gregory P. Smith
On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 9:01 AM Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 10:26:04AM -0500, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > > You have missed at least one: the minimum technology requirement for > > > using Github is a lot more stringent than for Roundup. Github's minimum > > > system requirement

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 581 has been updated with "Downsides of GitHub" section

2019-07-02 Thread Lysandros Nikolaou
Note that there also is a Github CLI at https://github.com/node-gh/gh#issues, which brings Github Issues to the terminal and which I use regularly. It, of course, has dependencies and a learning curve of its own, but it might be a viable alternative for those, whose browsers do not support the Gith

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 581 has been updated with "Downsides of GitHub" section

2019-07-02 Thread Mariatta
If loading GitHub website is a technical problem, then it is a pre-existing condition not caused by PEP 581. On Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 12:47 AM Steven D'Aprano wrote: > You have missed at least one: the minimum technology requirement for > using Github is a lot more stringent than for Roundup. Githu

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 581 has been updated with "Downsides of GitHub" section

2019-07-02 Thread Mariatta
That's being considered in PEP 588: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0588/#a-github-account-should-not-be-a-requirement It was a consideration since PEP 581 was written, but got moved to 588. On Tue, Jul 2, 2019, 8:13 AM Baptiste Carvello < devel2...@baptiste-carvello.net> wrote: > Le 28/06/

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 581 has been updated with "Downsides of GitHub" section

2019-07-02 Thread Baptiste Carvello
Le 28/06/2019 à 18:56, Mariatta a écrit : > Hi, > > I've updated PEP 581 yesterday, adding the "Downsides of GitHub" section. > > https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0581/#downsides-of-github Hi, another missing point: the necessity to register an account with a third party's social network, an

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 581 has been updated with "Downsides of GitHub" section

2019-07-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 2:01 AM Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 10:26:04AM -0500, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > > You have missed at least one: the minimum technology requirement for > > > using Github is a lot more stringent than for Roundup. Github's minimum > > > system requiremen

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 581 has been updated with "Downsides of GitHub" section

2019-07-01 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 10:26:04AM -0500, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > You have missed at least one: the minimum technology requirement for > > using Github is a lot more stringent than for Roundup. Github's minimum > > system requirements are higher, and it doesn't degrade as well, so > > moving to G

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 581 has been updated with "Downsides of GitHub" section

2019-06-29 Thread Steve Holden
Excellent thought. On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 6:49 PM Ned Deily wrote: > > On Jun 28, 2019, at 12:56, Mariatta wrote: > > Some of the items brought up during the language summit: > > [...] > > - we should be updating devguide ahead of the actual migration, so core > developers and release managers

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 581 has been updated with "Downsides of GitHub" section

2019-06-29 Thread Skip Montanaro
> You have missed at least one: the minimum technology requirement for > using Github is a lot more stringent than for Roundup. Github's minimum > system requirements are higher, and it doesn't degrade as well, so > moving to Github will make it much harder for those who are using older > technolog

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 581 has been updated with "Downsides of GitHub" section

2019-06-29 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 09:56:26AM -0700, Mariatta wrote: > Hi, > > I've updated PEP 581 yesterday, adding the "Downsides of GitHub" section. > > https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0581/#downsides-of-github You have missed at least one: the minimum technology requirement for using Github is a

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 581 has been updated with "Downsides of GitHub" section

2019-06-28 Thread Carol Willing
I agree with you, Ned. Mariatta, I'm happy to work on an initial pass at the devguide in my fork. On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:52 AM Ned Deily wrote: > > On Jun 28, 2019, at 12:56, Mariatta wrote: > > Some of the items brought up during the language summit: > > [...] > > - we should be updating

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 581 has been updated with "Downsides of GitHub" section

2019-06-28 Thread Ned Deily
On Jun 28, 2019, at 12:56, Mariatta wrote: > Some of the items brought up during the language summit: > [...] > - we should be updating devguide ahead of the actual migration, so core > developers and release managers have time to review and learn the new > workflow. (suggested by Ned Deily)

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 581 has been updated with "Downsides of GitHub" section

2019-06-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jun 28, 2019, at 09:56, Mariatta wrote: > > I've updated PEP 581 yesterday, adding the "Downsides of GitHub" section. > > https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0581/#downsides-of-github Thanks Mariatta! > I plan to update PEP 588 sometime this weekend or next, to incorporate the > discussion