On 15 Apr 2014 18:56, "Steve Dower" wrote:
> From Eric:
> > This should be doable with an import hook. For that matter it would be
pretty straight-forward to provide a script around the Python binary that
installs the import hook. All this could be bundled up and distributed
through the cheesesh
On Apr 15, 2014, at 10:55 PM, Steve Dower wrote:
>Really, I'd expect the name to be pretty boring - "Python Straddle", "Python
>2 Strict" or "Python Migration Edition" (if anyone can live with Python ME
>;-) )
We often call code that works in both Python 2 and 3 from a single source
"bi-lingual".
Apologies for the slow reply, I was travelling back from PyCon.
>From Guido:
> - I'd prefer a name that plays on 2 and 3, not 2 and 8. :-)
I didn't really expect the name to stick, but Nick and I had such a good laugh
that it would have been unfair not to share it :-) (though I laughed even more
On 14 Apr 2014 17:17, "Donald Stufft" wrote:
>
> Now I will admit I personally have probably had a harder time than some
others because of the nature of the things I was trying to work on, and
lately it’s gotten better (although I think that’s partially because I’m
more known now, and I think in g
Guido van Rossum writes:
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Donald Stufft wrote:
>> As someone who *has* given back, I can certainly understand why
>> someone would feel that way. It often times *does* feel like
>> CPython doesn’t want contributions.
Sure, but most of the time that feeling
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:03 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > How about mirg2**3 (pronounced "migrate") ?
> >
> > ;-)
> >
>
> Just read this, and laughed so loudly and suddenly that my brother's
> cat jumped in fright.
>
> Spelled 2**3 and pronounced 8 makes perfect sense, same as spelling
> "Mercu
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Chris Barker
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Guido van Rossum
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> >> - I'd prefer a name that plays on 2 and 3, not 2 and 8. :-)
> >
> > How about mirg2**3 (pronounced "mig
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Chris Barker wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
>
>>
>> >> - I'd prefer a name that plays on 2 and 3, not 2 and 8. :-)
>
> How about mirg2**3 (pronounced "migrate") ?
>
> ;-)
>
Just read this, and laughed so loudly and suddenly that
On 4/14/2014 5:00 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Terry Reedy mailto:tjre...@udel.edu>> wrote:
If the company is profitable, it could afford
to fund a half- to full-time developer.
By using the vague 'fund' I meant either hire themselves or donate to
PSF
On 4/14/2014 5:16 PM, Donald Stufft wrote:
On Apr 14, 2014, at 4:39 PM, Guido van Rossum mailto:gu...@python.org>> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Donald Stufft mailto:don...@stufft.io>> wrote:
On Apr 14, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Terry Reedy mailto:tjre...@udel.edu>> wrote:
> O
Guido van Rossum wrote:
Some quick thoughts:
- I'd prefer a name that plays on 2 and 3, not 2 and 8. :-)
Python Twee?
Or maybe Python Tween, as in "between 2 and 3".
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On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Steve Dower wrote:
[snip]
> The two important components of Python 2migr8 would be the ability to disable
> 2.7-only features, and to do so on a module-by-module basis.
This should be doable with an import hook. For that matter it would
be pretty straight-forwar
On 14/04/2014 22:17, Chris Barker wrote:
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Guido van Rossum mailto:gu...@python.org>> wrote:
>> - I'd prefer a name that plays on 2 and 3, not 2 and 8. :-)
How about mirg2**3 (pronounced "migrate") ?
;-)
-Chris
I agree with the grate part. Failing that
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> >> - I'd prefer a name that plays on 2 and 3, not 2 and 8. :-)
>
How about mirg2**3 (pronounced "migrate") ?
;-)
-Chris
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On Apr 14, 2014, at 4:39 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Donald Stufft wrote:
>
> On Apr 14, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
>
> > On 4/14/2014 11:32 AM, Steve Dower wrote:
> [...]
> >> However unfair
> >> and incorrect it may be, there is a perception in
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 4/14/2014 11:32 AM, Steve Dower wrote:
>
[...]
>
The main trigger was a conversation I had with two employees of a
>> very large bank that has about 3000 Python users (not developers -
>> mostly financial analysts) and 16 million lines of
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Donald Stufft wrote:
>
> On Apr 14, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
>
> > On 4/14/2014 11:32 AM, Steve Dower wrote:
> [...]
> >> However unfair
> >> and incorrect it may be, there is a perception in some businesses
> >> that open-source projects do not want
On Apr 14, 2014 2:42 PM, "Terry Reedy" wrote:
>
> On 4/14/2014 1:19 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
>>
>> Some quick thoughts:
>>
>> - I'd prefer a name that plays on 2 and 3, not 2 and 8. :-)
>>
>> - Are you sure this isn't better directed to python-ideas first? Most
>> ideas have to prove their wort
On Apr 14, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 4/14/2014 11:32 AM, Steve Dower wrote:
>
>> To put it up front, I'm totally against "CPython 2.8" ever becoming a
>> real thing. Anything that comes out should be seen as a migration
>> path, not an upgrade path. I'll also admit I'm not heavi
On 4/14/2014 11:32 AM, Steve Dower wrote:
To put it up front, I'm totally against "CPython 2.8" ever becoming a
real thing. Anything that comes out should be seen as a migration
path, not an upgrade path. I'll also admit I'm not heavily invested
in working on it myself, but I had a number of con
On 4/14/2014 1:19 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Some quick thoughts:
- I'd prefer a name that plays on 2 and 3, not 2 and 8. :-)
- Are you sure this isn't better directed to python-ideas first? Most
ideas have to prove their worth in that list before python-dev will give
them the light of day.
-
Some quick thoughts:
- I'd prefer a name that plays on 2 and 3, not 2 and 8. :-)
- Are you sure this isn't better directed to python-ideas first? Most ideas
have to prove their worth in that list before python-dev will give them the
light of day.
- When it comes to purely syntactic issues (e.g.
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Steve Dower wrote:
> My best idea so far would be to have a magic comment (to ensure 2.7
> compatibility better than a "from __future__ ...") near the top of the file
> that marks that file as "must straddle 2.7 and 3.3". Adding this comment
> causes (for exampl
Just in case there's anyone out there who isn't yet sick of discussing how to
proceed with Python 2.7, I have some more inputs to contribute.
To put it up front, I'm totally against "CPython 2.8" ever becoming a real
thing. Anything that comes out should be seen as a migration path, not an
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