[Python-Dev] Python 3.12.0 alpha 6 released

2023-03-07 Thread Thomas Wouters
I'm pleased to announce the release of Python 3.12 alpha 6. https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3120a6/ *This is an early developer preview of Python 3.12.* Major new features of the 3.12 series, compared to 3.11 Python 3.12 is still in development. This release, 3.12.0a6 is the six

[Python-Dev] Python 3.11.2, 3.10.10

2023-02-18 Thread אורי
Hi, I was surprised that Python 3.11.2 and 3.10.10 have been released without a notice to this mailing list. What happened? Thanks, Uri. אורי u...@speedy.net On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 1:03 AM Łukasz Langa wrote: > Greetings! We bring you a slew of releases this fine Saint Nicholas / > Sinterklaa

[Python-Dev] Python Language Summit at PyCon US 2023 in Salt Lake City

2023-02-07 Thread Łukasz Langa
We’re excited to announce that the signups for the Python Language Summit at PyCon US 2023 are now open. Full details at: https://us.pycon.org/2023/events/language-summit/ Just like in 2022, we are doing the Summit as an in-person event. We wil

[Python-Dev] Python 3.12.0 alpha 4 released

2023-01-10 Thread Thomas Wouters
I'm pleased to announce the release of Python 3.12 alpha 4. https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3120a4/ *This is an early developer preview of Python 3.12*. Major new features of the 3.12 series, compared to 3.11 Python 3.12 is still in development. This release, 3.12.0a4 is the fou

[Python-Dev] Python Launcher not Installed on Windows Machine

2022-12-13 Thread Margo Hoover
Dear Jonathan and Brian, I have python and pip installed on my Windows machine. However, I do not seem to have the python launcher installed (if that is even possible). I am a very beginner in Python. Could you explain how I should 'download' the python installer, or if I should even do that. What

[Python-Dev] Python 3.12.0 alpha 2 released

2022-11-15 Thread Thomas Wouters
I'm pleased to announce the release of Python 3.12 alpha 2. https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3120a2/ *This is an early developer preview of Python 3.12*. Major new features of the 3.12 series, compared to 3.11 Python 3.12 is still in development. This release, 3.12.0a2 is the sec

[Python-Dev] Python 3.12.0 alpha 1 released.

2022-10-24 Thread Thomas Wouters
As Pablo released Python 3.11.0 final earlier today, now it's my turn to release Python 3.12.0 alpha 1. *This is an early developer preview of Python 3.12* Major new features of the 3.12 series, compared to 3.11 Python 3.12 is still in development. This release, 3.12.0a1 is the first of seven pl

[Python-Dev] Python 3.11 bytecode and exception table

2022-07-05 Thread Matthieu Dartiailh
Hi all, I am the current maintainer of bytecode (https://github.com/MatthieuDartiailh/bytecode) which is a library to perform assembly and disassembly of Python bytecode. The library was created by V. Stinner. I started looking in Python 3.11 support in bytecode, I read Objects/exception_ha

[Python-Dev] Python grammar test cases

2022-05-09 Thread Venkat Ramakrishnan
Greetings! I'm wondering if there's a repository of test cases that test the Python grammar. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks & Best Regards, Venkat. ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le

[Python-Dev] Python 3.9.11

2022-03-16 Thread Prasad, PCRaghavendra
Hi Team, Can someone please let us know the release date of Python 3.9.11 ( with libexpat 2.4.8 security issues fixed ) In the python.org releases it was mentioned as 14-march-2022, but still, I couldn't see the bin/source code. Can someone help with this Thanks, Raghavendra Internal Use -

[Python-Dev] Python Language Summit at PyCon 2022 in Salt Lake City

2022-03-11 Thread Mariatta
We're excited to announce that the signups for Python Language Summit at PyCon 2022 are now open. Full details at: https://us.pycon.org/2022/events/language-summit/ After two years of virtual/online summit, we will be returning to in-person format. We will be following the health and safety guide

[Python-Dev] Python 3.11.0a6 is blocked

2022-03-02 Thread Pablo Galindo Salgado
Hi everyone, Unfortunately, we have some issues marked as release blockers that are holding the 3.11.0a6 release. Some of these issues have been solved but we still have a couple of them. Hopefully, we will solve these soon and I will proceed with the release. Thanks for your understanding. Rega

[Python-Dev] Python-Dev] Replace debug runtime checks in release mode, with assertions in debug mode

2022-02-07 Thread Matti Picus
On 7/2/22 17:55, Victor Stinner wrote: End users should not have to pay the price of these runtime checks. Is the cost of the checks measurable and significant? Surely sanitizing arguments to prevent segfaults is worth a few nano-seconds? Matti __

[Python-Dev] Python no longer leaks memory at exit

2022-01-27 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, tl; dr Python no longer leaks memory at exit on the "python -c pass" command ;-) == Bug report == In 2007, the bpo-1635741 issue was reported on SourceForge: "Interpreter seems to leak references after finalization". This bug is 15 years old. It saw the bugs migration from SourceForge to R

[Python-Dev] Python 3.6 rides into the sunset

2022-01-07 Thread Ned Deily
While there are many reasons to welcome the end of 2021, I would like to give a shout-out to Python 3.6 which officially reached end-of-life on 2021-12-23, 6.5 years after its development began and exactly five years after its initial release. Building on the success of previous Python 3 releas

[Python-Dev] Python 3.11.0a4 is blocked

2022-01-04 Thread Pablo Galindo Salgado
Hi everyone, I am writing this to notify you that unfortunately the release of 3.11.0a4 is blocked as there are a bunch of release blockers (some of them affect Python 3.10): https://bugs.python.org/issue46263 https://bugs.python.org/issue46208 https://bugs.python.org/issue46006 https://bugs.pyth

[Python-Dev] Python 3.10 vs 3.8 performance degradation

2021-12-19 Thread aivazian . tigran
Hello, Being a programmer myself I realise that a report on performance degradation should ideally contain a small test program that clearly reproduces the problem. However, unfortunately, I do not have the time at present to isolate the issue to a small test case. But the good news (or bad new

[Python-Dev] Python release announcement format

2021-12-14 Thread Yann Droneaud
Hi, I'm not familiar with the Python release process, but looking at the latest release https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3101/ we can see MD5 is still used ... which doesn't sound right in 2021 ... especially since we proved it's possible to build different .tar.gz that have the

[Python-Dev] Python multithreading without the GIL

2021-10-07 Thread Sam Gross
Hi, I've been working on changes to CPython to allow it to run without the global interpreter lock. I'd like to share a working proof-of-concept that can run without the GIL. The proof-of-concept involves substantial changes to CPython internals, but relatively few changes to the C-API. It is comp

[Python-Dev] Python 3.10 release party

2021-09-28 Thread Pablo Galindo Salgado
Hi, As it seems that I didn't have enough work dealing with the multiple release blockers that have been raised these weeks I am also preparing a Python 3.10 release party. We will be doing an stream, co-hosted by the good people of Python discord channel. The URL for the stream is this one: htt

[Python-Dev] python-dev thread w/ Marco Sulla

2021-08-16 Thread Brett Cannon
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/thread/JRFJ4QH7TR35HFRQWOYPPCGOYRFAXK24/ I can't be objective with Marco as I believe we have recorded issues with him previously (as with Steven if you take Marco's initial side with this). The thing that pushed me over the edge to repo

[Python-Dev] python-iterators mailing list on SourceForge

2021-05-10 Thread Julien Palard via Python-Dev
Hi, PEP 234 mention https://sourceforge.net/p/python/mailman/python-iterators/ but the project mailing list archives are marked as "hidden". Looks like projects admin and developers can get the "hidden link", but I think it would be nice to "unhide" the archives if someone is still admin there an

[Python-Dev] Python release timeline plot

2021-05-02 Thread Michał Górny
Hi, I've been working on visualizing some data on Python in Gentoo, and made a timeline of Python releases as a side result. I've figured some of you might be interested, so I've decided to share it. The result: https://mgorny.pl/python-timeline.html Script: https://github.com/mgorny/gpyutils/

[Python-Dev] Python history: origin of the arrow annotation

2021-03-05 Thread Steven D'Aprano
I was curious how and why return annotations use the arrow `->` symbol, so I went spelunking into the depths of the Python-Ideas and Python-Dev mailing lists. Much to my surprise, I couldn't find any discussion or debate about it. Eventually I tracked the discussion back to a mailing list I did

[Python-Dev] Python 3.10.0a6 is available, now with 100% more pattern matching

2021-03-02 Thread Pablo Galindo Salgado
Remember us? It's your friendly CPython release team and we have something we think you may like: The new alpha release of Python 3.10 is here, now with 100% more pattern matching. If I were you, I would download it and start playing with it. Extra points if you report us any bugs you find along th

[Python-Dev] Python Language Summit 2021 Signups Are Now Open

2021-02-24 Thread Łukasz Langa
I’m happy to announce that we’ve opened the sign-up forms for the 2021 Python Language Summit! TL;DR When: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 (4 hours) and Wednesday, May 12, 2021 (4 hours). Exact times TBD depending on attendee timezones. Where: Online via Zoom (link will be sent via email to attendees) Co

[Python-Dev] Python 0.9.1

2021-02-16 Thread Skip Montanaro
A note to webmas...@python.org from an astute user named Hiromi in Japan* referred us to Guido's shell archives for the 0.9.1 release from 1991. As that wasn't listed in the historical releases README file: https://legacy.python.org/download/releases/src/README I pulled the shar files (and a patc

[Python-Dev] Python standardization

2021-02-12 Thread Dan Stromberg
What would it take to create an ANSI, ECMA and/or ISO standard for Python? It seems to have really helped C. It looks like Java isn't standardized, and it's done OK, though perhaps it was healthier in the past - before Oracle decided API's were ownable. I think standardizing Python might be real

[Python-Dev] python limited API missing PyCMethod_New on Windows for 3.9 and 3.10

2021-02-09 Thread Barry Scott
I raised https://bugs.python.org/issue43155 for the missing PyCMethod_New that was added in 3.9 but is missing from the python3.lib. Barry ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org ht

[Python-Dev] Python 3.10.0a5 is now available

2021-02-03 Thread Pablo Galindo Salgado
Well, this one took a bit more time due to some surprise last time reference leaks and release blockers to fix, but now Python 3.10.0a5 it’s here. Will this be the first release announcement of the 3.10 series without copy-paste typos? Go get it here: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/pytho

[Python-Dev] Python package funding through command-line

2020-12-17 Thread r22133yash
Many open-source developers are committing to several projects, developing package (for Python). A fraction of developers might need funds for the continuing development of several projects and to pursue contributing. Sadly, there is no direct short way for donors to fund python package develope

[Python-Dev] Python 4 FAQ

2020-09-15 Thread Steven D'Aprano
There's still a lot of community angst over the possibility that some hypothetical Python 4 will be like the 2/3 transition. Some people even imagine that the version after 3.9 could be that transition. I know we're not responsible for the ravings of people on social media, but do you think we

[Python-Dev] Python-checkins mailing list broken?

2020-09-14 Thread Jeremy Kloth
It seems that python-checkins isn't receiving any new commits since the 8th of September. A quick check of the github page shows activity since then, as do the buildbots. Just a heads up. -- Jeremy Kloth ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@pytho

[Python-Dev] Python logging with a custom clock

2020-09-03 Thread N. Benes
Dear list, log records in the Python logging library always use timestamps provided by `time.time()`, i.e. the usual system clock (UTC, CLOCK_REALTIME). This time is used as absolute timestamp in log records and for timestamps relative to the load of the library (Lib/logging/__init__.py: `_startT

[Python-Dev] Python code coverage for integration Tests

2020-07-30 Thread Magesh Sundar
Hi There, Which is the best tool to run the code coverage for python integration tests? I tried running with Code Coverage but no data is getting collected when I run my test using pytest command. Thanks, sm ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@pyt

[Python-Dev] Python is the only language with lack of const'ness in core, also affects: Re: PEP 622: Structural Pattern Matching

2020-07-08 Thread Paul Sokolovsky
Hello, On Wed, 08 Jul 2020 12:45:09 +1200 Greg Ewing wrote: > On 8/07/20 5:30 am, Paul Sokolovsky wrote: > > from __future__ import const > > > > FOO: const = 1 > > > > match val: > > case FOO: # obviously matches by constant's value > > This would make it *more* difficult to distingu

[Python-Dev] Python Documentation, Python language improvement, and productive discussion

2020-07-02 Thread Carol Willing
Hi folks, Earlier this year at the Python Language Summit, Ned Batchelder and I presented the concept of a Documentation Workgroup and a vision for the next few years: - Slidedeck https://speakerdeck.com/willingc/cpython-documentation-the-next-5-years - Blog post https://pyfound.blogspot.com/2

[Python-Dev] Python Language Summit 2020 blog posts

2020-05-01 Thread Mariatta
(x-posting to python-dev and python-committters) Just wanted to share that the first 7 of 11 blog posts about presentations and discussions from Python Language Summit are now up for your enjoyment. Main article: https://pyfound.blogspot.com/2020/04/the-2020-python-language-summit.html Day 1: A

[Python-Dev] Python 3.8.2 and 3.9.0a4 are now available

2020-02-25 Thread Łukasz Langa
On behalf of the entire Python development community, and the currently serving Python release team in particular, I’m pleased to announce the release of two of the latest Python editions. Python 3.8.2 Python 3.8.2 is the second maintenance release of Python 3.8 and contains two months worth o

[Python-Dev] Python Language Summit at PyCon 2020

2020-01-28 Thread Mariatta
(cross posting to python-committers and python-dev) I'm happy to announce that the signups for Python Language Summit at PyCon 2020 is now open. Full details at: https://us.pycon.org/2020/events/languagesummit/ *TL;DR* When: Wednesday, April 15, 2020, 9am–4pm (Note, we’re starting 1 hour earlie

[Python-Dev] Python library for the ServiceNow REST API

2020-01-28 Thread IT Canvass
It should be compatible with modern versions of ServiceNow. If there's API breakage or new features implemented, I usually have that fixed/incorporated into pysnow in a week or two. https://itcanvass.com/";> servicenow training ___ Python-Dev mailing l

[Python-Dev] Python-dev mailing lis archives earlier than late April 1999?

2020-01-01 Thread Skip Montanaro
I could swear python-dev was older than late April 1999, yet that's as far back as the MM3 archives go. As evidence, here's an email from Jack Jansen on 28 April 1999 which was a reply to an earlier message not present in the current archive: https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python

[Python-Dev] Python Documentation and AIX specifics - how to proceed?

2019-12-26 Thread Michael
First - best wishes all for a happy and healthy 2020! As my nickname implies - my primary means to contribute to Python is with regard to AIX. One of the things I recently came across is Misc/README.AIX which was last updated sometime between 2010 and 2014. I am thinking a facelift is in order. As

[Python-Dev] Python 3.8 error? (was: Python 3.8 problem with PySide)

2019-12-09 Thread Christian Tismer
On 08.12.19 09:49, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Fri., 6 Dec. 2019, 3:31 am Christian Tismer, > wrote: > > Hi guys, > > during the last few weeks I have been struggling quite much > in order to make PySide run with Python 3.8 at all. > > The expected prob

[Python-Dev] Python 3.8 problem with PySide

2019-12-05 Thread Christian Tismer
Hi guys, during the last few weeks I have been struggling quite much in order to make PySide run with Python 3.8 at all. The expected problems were refcounting leaks due to changed handling of heaptypes. But in fact, the runtime behavior was much worse, because I always got negative refcounts! A

[Python-Dev] Python Profilers documentation - typo?

2019-10-08 Thread Rob Cliffe via Python-Dev
The documentation at     https://docs.python.org/3.2/library/profile.html contains the sentence     For example, if your_integer_time_func() returns times measured in thousands of seconds, you would construct the Profile instance as follows: "thousands of seconds" should ISTM be "thousandths of

[Python-Dev] Python for Windows (python-3.7.4.exe) location confusing

2019-09-10 Thread Jim J. Jewett
Is it possible for the installer to check whether or not there is a pre-existing system-wide launcher, and only do the complicated stuff if it is actually there? -jJ ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to pyt

[Python-Dev] Python library maintainers: PEP 602 needs your feedback

2019-09-10 Thread Łukasz Langa
Hey there, Python library maintainers! Python is looking into increasing its release cadence. You can read the current proposal here: https://python.org/dev/peps/pep-0602/ More importantly, we need your input. Read the PEP and please let us know what you

[Python-Dev] Python 3.7.4, Visual Studio versions for building modules from source

2019-07-22 Thread Kacvinsky, Tom
HI, Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I am trying to build pywin32-224 from source for Python 3.7.4. I think this might be the right list as this seems to be a generic problem I am having, but I want to focus on one particular module. First, I know I could get this via 'pip insta

[Python-Dev] Python 3.7.4rc1 (and 3.6.9rc1) cutoffs ahead, now set for 2019-06-17

2019-06-05 Thread Ned Deily
https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-7-4rc1-and-3-6-9rc1-cutoffs-ahead-now-set-for-2019-06-17/1824 A reminder: it is time for the next quarterly maintenance release of Python 3.7. The cutoff for **3.7.4rc1** had been scheduled for this coming Monday (2019-06-10) but many of us have been focused o

[Python-Dev] python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty

2019-06-05 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, Our kind postmasters Mark Sapiro and Abhilash Raj migrated python-ideas and python-dev mailing lists from Mailman 2 to Mailman 3 (running on Python 3 ;-))! You can now enjoy HyperKitty, the new web UI to access the mailing lists: https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/

Re: [Python-Dev] [python-committers] PEP 595: Improving bugs.python.org

2019-05-24 Thread Ezio Melotti
On Fri, May 24, 2019, 23:14 Gregory P. Smith wrote: > > > On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 1:48 PM Ezio Melotti > wrote: > >> >> On Fri, May 24, 2019, 20:23 Gregory P. Smith wrote: >> >>> -cc: committers to avoid crossposting. >>> >> >> +1 (I wanted to include committers, since the announcement about PE

Re: [Python-Dev] [python-committers] PEP 595: Improving bugs.python.org

2019-05-24 Thread Gregory P. Smith
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 1:48 PM Ezio Melotti wrote: > > On Fri, May 24, 2019, 20:23 Gregory P. Smith wrote: > >> -cc: committers to avoid crossposting. >> > > +1 (I wanted to include committers, since the announcement about PEP 581 > was posted there too, but it's better to keep the discussion h

Re: [Python-Dev] [python-committers] PEP 595: Improving bugs.python.org

2019-05-24 Thread Ezio Melotti
On Fri, May 24, 2019, 20:23 Gregory P. Smith wrote: > -cc: committers to avoid crossposting. > +1 (I wanted to include committers, since the announcement about PEP 581 was posted there too, but it's better to keep the discussion here) > I have feedback for roundup as experienced on BPO that sh

Re: [Python-Dev] [python-committers] PEP 595: Improving bugs.python.org

2019-05-24 Thread Gregory P. Smith
-cc: committers to avoid crossposting. I have feedback for roundup as experienced on BPO that should be represented within PEP 595 if we are going to have a summary of "improving roundup for BPO" captured in a PEP (presumably already rejected given 581? But good to have documented regardless so _t

Re: [Python-Dev] Python in next Windows 10 update

2019-05-24 Thread Giampaolo Rodola'
On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 03:30, Steve Dower wrote: > Hi all > > Just sharing this here because I think it's important for us to be aware > of it - I'm not trying to promote or sell anything here :) (Those who > were at the language summit have seen this already.) > > In the next Windows 10 update t

Re: [Python-Dev] Python in next Windows 10 update

2019-05-24 Thread Steve Dower
On 24May2019 0220, Baptiste Carvello wrote: Hello, Le 21/05/2019 à 22:30, Steve Dower a écrit : [...] * the Python 3.7 installed from the store will not auto-update to 3.8, but when 3.8 is released we (Microsoft) will update the redirect to point at it * if you pass arguments to the redirect

Re: [Python-Dev] Python in next Windows 10 update

2019-05-24 Thread Baptiste Carvello
Hello, Le 21/05/2019 à 22:30, Steve Dower a écrit : > > [...] > > * the Python 3.7 installed from the store will not auto-update to 3.8, > but when 3.8 is released we (Microsoft) will update the redirect to > point at it > * if you pass arguments to the redirect command, it just exits with an > e

Re: [Python-Dev] Python in next Windows 10 update

2019-05-23 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Thu, 23 May 2019 00:23:39 +0200 Ray Donnelly wrote: > On Thu, May 23, 2019, 12:17 AM Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev < > python-dev@python.org> wrote: > > > On 22.05.2019 23:52, Steve Dower wrote: > > > On 22May2019 1309, Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev wrote: >

Re: [Python-Dev] Python in next Windows 10 update

2019-05-22 Thread Ray Donnelly
On Thu, May 23, 2019, 12:17 AM Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev < python-dev@python.org> wrote: > On 22.05.2019 23:52, Steve Dower wrote: > > On 22May2019 1309, Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev wrote: > >> As someone whose job is to diagnose and fix problems with running > softw

Re: [Python-Dev] Python in next Windows 10 update

2019-05-22 Thread Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev
On 22.05.2019 23:52, Steve Dower wrote: On 22May2019 1309, Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev wrote: As someone whose job is to diagnose and fix problems with running software: Are there patches in your release? Do you provide corresponding sources and debug symbols for it? You can find the sources

Re: [Python-Dev] Python in next Windows 10 update

2019-05-22 Thread Steve Dower
On 22May2019 1309, Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev wrote: As someone whose job is to diagnose and fix problems with running software: Are there patches in your release? Do you provide corresponding sources and debug symbols for it? You can find the sources at https://github.com/python/cpython :)

Re: [Python-Dev] Python in next Windows 10 update

2019-05-22 Thread Steve Dower
On 22May2019 1237, Oscar Benjamin wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 21:32, Steve Dower wrote: In the next Windows 10 update that starts rolling out today, we (Microsoft) have added "python.exe" and "python3.exe" commands that are installed on PATH *by default* and will open the Microsoft Store at

Re: [Python-Dev] Python in next Windows 10 update

2019-05-22 Thread Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev
On 21.05.2019 23:30, Steve Dower wrote: Hi all Just sharing this here because I think it's important for us to be aware of it - I'm not trying to promote or sell anything here :) (Those who were at the language summit have seen this already.) In the next Windows 10 update that starts rollin

Re: [Python-Dev] Python in next Windows 10 update

2019-05-22 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 21:32, Steve Dower wrote: > > In the next Windows 10 update that starts rolling out today, we > (Microsoft) have added "python.exe" and "python3.exe" commands that are > installed on PATH *by default* and will open the Microsoft Store at the > page where we (Python core team

Re: [Python-Dev] Python in next Windows 10 update

2019-05-21 Thread Steve Dower
On 21May2019 1621, MRAB wrote: Does it behave nicely with py.exe? This is still something of an open issue with the Store package for Python - py.exe doesn't look for the registry keys in a way that will find them (due to some very obscure compatibility quirks). The Store package does not i

Re: [Python-Dev] Python in next Windows 10 update

2019-05-21 Thread MRAB
On 2019-05-21 21:30, Steve Dower wrote: [snip] The associated blog post: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/python/python-in-the-windows-10-may-2019-update/ Here are answers to a few questions that I assume will come up, at least from this audience that understands the issues better than most: * i

Re: [Python-Dev] Python in next Windows 10 update

2019-05-21 Thread Ethan Furman
On 05/21/2019 01:30 PM, Steve Dower wrote: In the next Windows 10 update that starts rolling out today, we (Microsoft) have added "python.exe" and "python3.exe" commands that are installed on PATH *by default* and will open the Microsoft Store at the page where we (Python core team) publish ou

Re: [Python-Dev] Python in next Windows 10 update

2019-05-21 Thread Christian Heimes
On 21/05/2019 22.30, Steve Dower wrote: > Hi all > > Just sharing this here because I think it's important for us to be aware of > it - I'm not trying to promote or sell anything here :) (Those who were at > the language summit have seen this already.) > > In the next Windows 10 update that sta

Re: [Python-Dev] Python in next Windows 10 update

2019-05-21 Thread Eric V. Smith
That’s great, Steve. Thanks for all of the work (by you and others) on this. -- Eric V. Smith True Blade Systems, Inc (301) 859-4544 > On May 21, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Steve Dower wrote: > > Hi all > > Just sharing this here because I think it's important for us to be aware of > it - I'm not try

[Python-Dev] Python in next Windows 10 update

2019-05-21 Thread Steve Dower
Hi all Just sharing this here because I think it's important for us to be aware of it - I'm not trying to promote or sell anything here :) (Those who were at the language summit have seen this already.) In the next Windows 10 update that starts rolling out today, we (Microsoft) have added "p

Re: [Python-Dev] [python-committers] PEP 581 (Using GitHub issues for CPython) is accepted

2019-05-18 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 6:44 PM Ezio Melotti wrote: > > I share the same concerns: 1) the PEP contains several factual errors. I pointed this out during > the core-sprints last year and more recently Berker pointed out some > on GitHub: https://github.com/python/peps/pull/1013 ; > 4) Berker is/

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Summit 2019 blog posts

2019-05-15 Thread Terry Reedy
On 5/15/2019 6:06 PM, Mariatta wrote: If you have FOMO (fear of missing out) of Python Language Summit 2019, worry no more. We invited A. Jesse Jiryu Davis to cover for the language summit, and the blog posts are starting to appear in The PSF's official blog. Starts here: http://pyfound.blo

[Python-Dev] Python Language Summit 2019 blog posts

2019-05-15 Thread Mariatta
If you have FOMO (fear of missing out) of Python Language Summit 2019, worry no more. We invited A. Jesse Jiryu Davis to cover for the language summit, and the blog posts are starting to appear in The PSF's official blog. Starts here: http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2019/05/the-2019-python-language-s

Re: [Python-Dev] [python-committers] PEP 581 (Using GitHub issues for CPython) is accepted

2019-05-15 Thread Ezio Melotti
too used to mailing lists :-) > I share the same concerns: 1) the discussion was fragmented between zulip/discuss/github/python-dev/python-committers/sprints/pycons and very difficult to follow, even for interested people (Victor already posted several links but missed a few others); 2) the pr

Re: [Python-Dev] [python-committers] PEP 581 (Using GitHub issues for CPython) is accepted

2019-05-15 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 8:18 AM Paul Moore wrote: > On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 15:56, Victor Stinner wrote: > > > > Hi Paul, > > Le mer. 15 mai 2019 à 11:40, Paul Moore a écrit : > > > Also, is there an archive of the discussions anywhere? The PEP says > > > discussions happened on Zulip, but I don

Re: [Python-Dev] [python-committers] PEP 581 (Using GitHub issues for CPython) is accepted

2019-05-15 Thread Paul Moore
On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 15:56, Victor Stinner wrote: > > Hi Paul, > Le mer. 15 mai 2019 à 11:40, Paul Moore a écrit : > > Also, is there an archive of the discussions anywhere? The PEP says > > discussions happened on Zulip, but I don't follow that and I don't > > know where I can find an archived

Re: [Python-Dev] [python-committers] PEP 581 (Using GitHub issues for CPython) is accepted

2019-05-15 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi Paul, Le mer. 15 mai 2019 à 11:40, Paul Moore a écrit : > Also, is there an archive of the discussions anywhere? The PEP says > discussions happened on Zulip, but I don't follow that and I don't > know where I can find an archived copy of the discussions. Well, the PEP has been discussed a lot

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Documentation Translation in italian language

2019-04-20 Thread Terry Reedy
On 4/20/2019 4:14 AM, Alessandro Cucci wrote: Hello folks, I want to start a project for translating the Python Documentation in Italian. I'm reading the PEP545, trying to understand how it works. I founded a Python User Group in my city and I can work with them on the translations, plus next

[Python-Dev] Python Documentation Translation in italian language

2019-04-20 Thread Alessandro Cucci
Hello folks, I want to start a project for translating the Python Documentation in Italian. I'm reading the PEP545, trying to understand how it works. I founded a Python User Group in my city and I can work with them on the translations, plus next month I will be speaker at Pycon Italy, so I can e

[Python-Dev] Python 3.4.10 is now available

2019-03-18 Thread Larry Hastings
On behalf of the Python development community, I'm proud--if slightly sad--to announce the availability of Python 3.4.10. Python 3.4.10 was released in "security fixes only" mode.  It only contains security fixes, not conventional bug fixes, and it is a source-only release. Python 3.4.10 i

[Python-Dev] Python 3.5.7 is now available

2019-03-18 Thread Larry Hastings
On behalf of the Python development community, I'm chuffed to announce the availability of Python 3.5.7. Python 3.5 is in "security fixes only" mode.  It only accepts security fixes, not conventional bug fixes, and the release is source-only. And you can find Python 3.5.7rc1 here: https

Re: [Python-Dev] [python-committers] Last-minute request: please backport bpo-33329 fix to 3.4 and 3.5

2019-03-11 Thread Victor Stinner
I don't think that a thread about a release is the right place to discuss a bug. Please open an issue at bugs.python.org 😉 Victor Le lundi 11 mars 2019, Joni Orponen a écrit : > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 7:50 AM Larry Hastings wrote: >> >> On 3/4/19 2:29 AM, Joni Orponen wrote: >> >> On Sat, Mar

Re: [Python-Dev] [python-committers] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.10rc1 and Python 3.5.7rc1 are now available

2019-03-04 Thread Victor Stinner
FYI I check and I confirm that all known security vulnerabilities listed in the link below are fixed in these releases: https://python-security.readthedocs.io/vulnerabilities.html Victor Le lun. 4 mars 2019 à 10:24, Larry Hastings a écrit : > > > On behalf of the Python development community, I'

Re: [Python-Dev] [python-committers] Announcing: signups are open for the 2019 Python Language Summit

2019-02-27 Thread Łukasz Langa
> On 27 Feb 2019, at 14:22, Łukasz Langa wrote: > > The Python Language Summit is an event for the developers of Python > implementations (CPython, PyPy, Jython, and so on) to share information, > discuss our shared problems, and — hopefully — solve them. Oh, you'd also like to know *when* and

[Python-Dev] Python 3.8.0a1 with sqlite 3.27.1 -> OK

2019-02-15 Thread Stephane Wirtel
Hi all, I wanted to test with the new version of SQLite3 3.27.1 and there is no issue (compiled with a debian:latest docker image and the last version of 3.27.1). Sorry, it's not a bug, I wanted to inform you there is no issue with the last stable version of SQLite3. Have a nice week-end, St

[Python-Dev] Python 3.8 alpha and AIX buildbot “support” moving forward.

2019-02-09 Thread Michael Felt (aixtools)
Congratulations on the official begin of the alpha phase of Python3-3.8. I hope there will be time to consider three of my PRs so that this phase has at least one of the AIX buildbots (not mine I fear) is passing all the tests and can finally serve it’s real purpose and signal when a change tog

Re: [Python-Dev] python subprocess module to submit a list of slurm sbatch jobs, each job use multiprocessing.Pool to run simulation on single compute node in cluster

2019-01-07 Thread Steven D'Aprano
This mailing list is for the development of the Python interpreter, not for asking questions about your own code. Did you sign up using the Python-Dev mailing list website? At the top of the page, it says Do not post general Python questions to this list. For help with Python please se

[Python-Dev] python subprocess module to submit a list of slurm sbatch jobs, each job use multiprocessing.Pool to run simulation on single compute node in cluster

2019-01-07 Thread Tian, Liang
Dear Developers, I have been working on a piece of code development that need your sincere help (three code file attached here). I use run_slurm.py to use python subprocess module to submit multiple jobs to slurm cluster by invoking a sbatch file with a for loop to reach the following target:

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Governance Proposals

2018-10-27 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2018-10-26 19:17, Brett Cannon wrote: But since you're asking about wanting to "review PEPs", you can review them now. Unfortunately not everybody agrees on that... See https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2018-October/155441.html in particular I really hope that I won't have to

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Governance Proposals

2018-10-26 Thread Steve Holden
As a piece of pure experiential data based on some years trying to herd the PSF cats, if python-dev can find a way of running its activities without votes needing to be taken I would really emphasise the benefits of the lack of such administration. If voting is required, please consider using the

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Governance Proposals

2018-10-26 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 13:20, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > What is the timeframe for the installation of the new governance? In > other words, when will it be possible to review PEPs? > PEP 8001 outlines the voting for the governance models which includes a planned schedule for that vote. After that

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Governance Proposals

2018-10-23 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
What is the timeframe for the installation of the new governance? In other words, when will it be possible to review PEPs? ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.p

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Governance Proposals

2018-10-23 Thread Stéfane Fermigier
+1 (for what it's worth) to any proposal which includes one (or more) GUIDOs :) S. On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 11:57 AM Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > Last July, Guido van Rossum decided to resign from his role of BDFL. > Python core developers decided to design a new governance/organization > f

[Python-Dev] Python Language Governance Proposals

2018-10-23 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, Last July, Guido van Rossum decided to resign from his role of BDFL. Python core developers decided to design a new governance/organization for Python. 6 governance PEPs have been proposed. It has been decided that discussions are reserved to core developers (everyone can read, but only core d

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] bpo-34203: FAQ now recommends python 3.x over 2.x (GH-9796)

2018-10-12 Thread Eric V. Smith
> On Oct 12, 2018, at 7:03 PM, Martin Panter wrote: > >> On 12/10/2018, Eric V. Smith wrote: >>> On 10/12/2018 5:17 AM, Tal Einat wrote: >>> >>> The latest stable releases can always be found on the `Python download page >>> -`_. There are two recommended

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] bpo-34203: FAQ now recommends python 3.x over 2.x (GH-9796)

2018-10-12 Thread Martin Panter
On 12/10/2018, Eric V. Smith wrote: > On 10/12/2018 5:17 AM, Tal Einat wrote: > >> The latest stable releases can always be found on the `Python download page >> -`_. There are two recommended >> production-ready >> -versions at this point in time, because at

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] bpo-34203: FAQ now recommends python 3.x over 2.x (GH-9796)

2018-10-12 Thread Eric V. Smith
On 10/12/2018 5:17 AM, Tal Einat wrote: The latest stable releases can always be found on the `Python download page -`_. There are two recommended production-ready -versions at this point in time, because at the moment there are two branches of -stable rele

Re: [Python-Dev] Python startup time

2018-10-10 Thread Ronald Oussoren via Python-Dev
> On 9 Oct 2018, at 23:02, Gregory Szorc wrote: > > > > While we're here, CPython might want to look into getdirentriesattr() as > a replacement for readdir(). We switched to it in Mercurial several > years ago to make `hg status` operations significantly faster [2]. I'm > not sure if it will

Re: [Python-Dev] Python startup time

2018-10-09 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Hi, On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 14:02:02 -0700 Gregory Szorc wrote: > > Python 3.7 doesn't exhibit as much of a problem. But it is still there. > A brief audit of the importer code and call stacks confirms it is the > same problem - just less prevalent. Wall time execution of the test > harness from Py

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