Re: [Python-Dev] Package Management - thoughts from the peanut gallery

2009-04-04 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 3, 2009, at 4:01 AM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: Each one of this task has a leader, except the one with (*). I just got back from travelling, and I will reorganize http://wiki.python.org/moin/Distutils asap to it is up-to-date. I added a link to

Re: [Python-Dev] Package Management - thoughts from the peanut gallery

2009-04-03 Thread Michael Foord
Chris Withers wrote: Olemis Lang wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Chris Withers wrote: Tarek Ziadé wrote: - PyPI mirroring (PEP 381) I don't see why PyPI isn't just ported to GAE with an S3 data storage bit and be done with it... Offline mirrors for people behind firewalls already

Re: [Python-Dev] Package Management - thoughts from the peanut gallery

2009-04-03 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Chris Withers wrote: > Tarek Ziadé wrote: >> >> I have taken the commitment to lead these tasks and synchronize the people >> that are willing to help on this. > > Good, I'm one of those people, Great ! > sadly my only help may be to ask "how is this > bit going

Re: [Python-Dev] Package Management - thoughts from the peanut gallery

2009-04-03 Thread Chris Withers
Olemis Lang wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Chris Withers wrote: Tarek Ziadé wrote: - PyPI mirroring (PEP 381) I don't see why PyPI isn't just ported to GAE with an S3 data storage bit and be done with it... Offline mirrors for people behind firewalls already have solutions out there

[Python-Dev] Package Management - thoughts from the peanut gallery

2009-04-03 Thread Olemis Lang
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Chris Withers wrote: > Tarek Ziadé wrote: > >> - PyPI mirroring (PEP 381) > > I don't see why PyPI isn't just ported to GAE with an S3 data storage bit > and be done with it... Offline mirrors for people behind firewalls already > have solutions out there... > -1

Re: [Python-Dev] Package Management - thoughts from the peanut gallery

2009-04-03 Thread Chris Withers
Tarek Ziadé wrote: I have taken the commitment to lead these tasks and synchronize the people that are willing to help on this. Good, I'm one of those people, sadly my only help may be to ask "how is this bit going to be done?". The tasks discussed so far are: - version definition (http://

Re: [Python-Dev] Package Management - thoughts from the peanut gallery

2009-04-03 Thread Olemis Lang
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Olemis Lang wrote: >> >> BTW ... I see nothing about removing dist_* commands from distutils ... >> >> Q: Am I wrong or it seems they will remain in stdlib ? > > This is roughly what Guido was talking about when

Re: [Python-Dev] Package Management - thoughts from the peanut gallery

2009-04-03 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Olemis Lang wrote: > > BTW ... I see nothing about removing dist_* commands from distutils ... > > Q: Am I wrong or it seems they will remain in stdlib ? Ok, beware that what I am writing here is for the long term. There are no plans yet to remove things right now.

Re: [Python-Dev] Package Management - thoughts from the peanut gallery

2009-04-03 Thread Olemis Lang
2009/4/3 Tarek Ziadé : > Guys, > > The tasks discussed so far are: > > - version definition (http://wiki.python.org/moin/DistutilsVersionFight) > - egg.info standardification (PEP 376) > - metadata enhancement (rewrite PEP 345) > - static metadata definition work  (*) Looks fine ... and very usefu

Re: [Python-Dev] Package Management - thoughts from the peanut gallery

2009-04-03 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Guys, I have taken the commitment to lead these tasks and synchronize the people that are willing to help on this. We are working on several tasks and PEPS to make things happen since the summit. There's no public roadmap yet on when things will be done (because there's no 100% certitude yet on

[Python-Dev] Package Management - thoughts from the peanut gallery

2009-04-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Chris Withers writes: > Personally I feel all of the above are perfectly possible, and can't see > anyone being left unhappy by them. I'm sure I've missed something then, > otherwise why not make it happen? Labor shortage. We will need a PEP, the PEP will need a sample implementation, and a

[Python-Dev] Package Management - thoughts from the peanut gallery

2009-04-02 Thread Chris Withers
Hey All, I have to admit to not having the willpower to plough through the 200 unread messages in the packaging thread when I got back from PyCon but just wanted to throw out a few thoughts on what my python packaging utopia would look like: - python would have a package format that included