Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 493: Redistributor guidance for Python 2.7 HTTPS

2015-07-09 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Thu, 9 Jul 2015 20:57:33 +1000 Nick Coghlan wrote: > > As Guido suggested, would you be willing to take on the BDFL-Delegate > task for this? It definitely seems appropriate given the errors and > omissions you've already found :) Fine. I'll take a look again and come up with questions, if I

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 493: Redistributor guidance for Python 2.7 HTTPS

2015-07-09 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 8 July 2015 at 00:42, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > In this case, though, I was a bit miffed since I didn't notice that > PEP appearing on python-ideas (or perhaps I already forget discussing > it?), which made me frustrated that *perhaps* with less pointless > drifting I would have seen it. Being on

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 493: Redistributor guidance for Python 2.7 HTTPS

2015-07-08 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 07/07/2015 15:42, Antoine Pitrou wrote: Whether the time required to properly follow python-ideas is a productive involvement for the average core dev is another question. The problem I see with python-ideas is that it may select on free time more than on actual, concrete contribution... (no

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 493: Redistributor guidance for Python 2.7 HTTPS

2015-07-07 Thread s.krah
Nick Coghlan wrote: > It's OK if folks aren't interested in participating in the noisy early > stages of that process - that's why the activity was long since moved > out to a dedicated list. It's not OK to make the jump from "I don't > consider participating in that to b

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 493: Redistributor guidance for Python 2.7 HTTPS

2015-07-07 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 00:10:09 +1000 Nick Coghlan wrote: > > It's OK if folks aren't interested in participating in the noisy early > stages of that process - that's why the activity was long since moved > out to a dedicated list. It's not OK to make the jump from "I don't > consider participating i

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 493: Redistributor guidance for Python 2.7 HTTPS

2015-07-07 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 7 July 2015 at 21:49, s.krah wrote: > > > Erik Bray wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Antoine Pitrou >> wrote: >>> On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 14:22:46 +1000 >>> Nick Coghlan wrote: The main change from the last version discussed on python-ideas >>> >>> Was it discussed there? Tha

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 493: Redistributor guidance for Python 2.7 HTTPS

2015-07-07 Thread s.krah
Erik Bray wrote: > On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 14:22:46 +1000 >> Nick Coghlan wrote: >>> >>> The main change from the last version discussed on python-ideas >> >> Was it disc

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 493: Redistributor guidance for Python 2.7 HTTPS

2015-07-07 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > From https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas > > > This list is to contain discussion of speculative language ideas for > Python for possible inclusion into the language. If an idea gains traction > it can then be discussed an

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 493: Redistributor guidance for Python 2.7 HTTPS

2015-07-07 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 07/07/2015 03:10, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Cross-posted to redirect discussion. Replies directed to Python-Ideas. Erik Bray writes on Python-Dev: > On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 14:22:46 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > >> > >> The main

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 493: Redistributor guidance for Python 2.7 HTTPS

2015-07-06 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Cross-posted to redirect discussion. Replies directed to Python-Ideas. Erik Bray writes on Python-Dev: > On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 14:22:46 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > >> > >> The main change from the last version discussed on python-ideas

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 493: Redistributor guidance for Python 2.7 HTTPS

2015-07-06 Thread Erik Bray
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 14:22:46 +1000 > Nick Coghlan wrote: >> >> The main change from the last version discussed on python-ideas > > Was it discussed there? That list has become totally useless, I've > stopped following it. Considering that a

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 493: Redistributor guidance for Python 2.7 HTTPS

2015-07-06 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 23:22:09 +1000 Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 6 Jul 2015 20:23, "Antoine Pitrou" wrote: > > > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 14:22:46 +1000 > > Nick Coghlan wrote: > > > > > > The main change from the last version discussed on python-ideas > > > > Was it discussed there? That list has become

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 493: Redistributor guidance for Python 2.7 HTTPS

2015-07-06 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 6 Jul 2015 20:23, "Antoine Pitrou" wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 14:22:46 +1000 > Nick Coghlan wrote: > > > > The main change from the last version discussed on python-ideas > > Was it discussed there? That list has become totally useless, I've > stopped following it. > > > * modify the ``ssl`

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 493: Redistributor guidance for Python 2.7 HTTPS

2015-07-06 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 14:22:46 +1000 Nick Coghlan wrote: > > The main change from the last version discussed on python-ideas Was it discussed there? That list has become totally useless, I've stopped following it. > * modify the ``ssl`` module to read the ``PYTHONHTTPSVERIFY`` environment > vari

[Python-Dev] PEP 493: Redistributor guidance for Python 2.7 HTTPS

2015-07-05 Thread Nick Coghlan
Hi folks, As previously discussed on python-ideas, Red Hat has been looking at ways to provide a smoother migration path for system administrators to get to a point where system Python installations are verifying HTTPS by default. While we're not proposing that these changes be implemented upstre