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> On 30 September 2014 20:13, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
> > - Original Message -
> >> On 20 September 2014 00:23, Donald Stufft wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> >> >
> >> > If the user wants to invoke Python 3, it's not ha
On 30 September 2014 20:13, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
> - Original Message -
>> On 20 September 2014 00:23, Donald Stufft wrote:
>> >
>> > On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>> >
>> > If the user wants to invoke Python 3, it's not hard to type 'python3' and I
>> > think that'
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> On 20 September 2014 00:23, Donald Stufft wrote:
> >
> > On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> >
> > If the user wants to invoke Python 3, it's not hard to type 'python3' and I
> > think that's the message we should be spreading. That already seems pr
Barry Warsaw wrote:
On Sep 19, 2014, at 08:40 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Until I say so. Which will happen in the distant future.
I'm gonna hid your time machine keys so you didn't find them.
Hiding someone's time machine keys never works. Chances are
he's already taken a trip to the futur
>
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 8:02 PM, Greg Ewing wrote:
>
> Donald Stufft wrote:
>
>> My biggest problem with ``python3``, is what happens after 3.9.
>
> Python2 technically includes 1.x versions as well, so it
> wouldn't be unprecedented for python3 to imply versions
> beyond 3.x. It would be a bi
Donald Stufft wrote:
My biggest problem with ``python3``, is what happens after 3.9.
Python2 technically includes 1.x versions as well, so it
wouldn't be unprecedented for python3 to imply versions
beyond 3.x. It would be a bit confusing, though.
--
Greg
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On 20 September 2014 00:23, Donald Stufft wrote:
>
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>
> If the user wants to invoke Python 3, it's not hard to type 'python3' and I
> think that's the message we should be spreading. That already seems pretty
> ingrained in user habits afaict.
>
On Sep 19, 2014, at 08:40 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
>Until I say so. Which will happen in the distant future.
I'm gonna hid your time machine keys so you didn't find them.
-Barry
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On Sep 19, 2014 8:36 AM, "Antoine Pitrou" wrote:
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> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:20:48 -0700
> Guido van Rossum wrote:
> > "python" should always be the same as "python2".
>
> "Always" as in "eternally"?
Until I say so. Which will happen in the distant future.
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:20:48 -0700
Guido van Rossum wrote:
> "python" should always be the same as "python2".
"Always" as in "eternally"?
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Donald Stufft :
> My biggest problem with ``python3``, is what happens after 3.9. I know
> Guido doesn’t particularly like two digit version numbers and it’s
> been suggested on this list that instead of 3.10 we’re likely to move
> directly into 4.0 regardless of if it’s a “big” change or not.
py
"python" should always be the same as "python2".
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:41:58AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> > On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Donald Stufft wrote:
> >
> > >My biggest problem with ``python3``, is what happens after 3.9.
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:16:20 -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> The way I look at it is that "/usr/bin/python" is user interface.
> Distributions are completely free to choose whichever Python they want for
> system scripts, and it's great to see that Fedora is well on their way to
> making Python 3 the
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:41:58AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Donald Stufft wrote:
>
> >My biggest problem with ``python3``, is what happens after 3.9.
>
> FWIW, 3.9 by my rough calculation is 7 years away.
That makes it 2021, one year after Python 2.7 free suppor
On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Donald Stufft wrote:
>My biggest problem with ``python3``, is what happens after 3.9.
FWIW, 3.9 by my rough calculation is 7 years away.
>I know Guido doesn’t particularly like two digit version numbers and it’s
>been suggested on this list that instead of 3.10 we’r
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>
> If the user wants to invoke Python 3, it's not hard to type 'python3' and I
> think that's the message we should be spreading. That already seems pretty
> ingrained in user habits afaict.
My biggest problem with ``python3``, is what happ
On Sep 19, 2014, at 03:31 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
>as Fedora is getting closer to having python3 as a default, I'm being more
>and more asked by Fedora users/contributors what'll "/usr/bin/python" invoke
>when we achieve this (Fedora 22 hopefully). So I was rereading PEP 394 and I
>think I need
There are many python2 only scripts with "#!/usr/bin/python" or
"#!/usr/bin/env python" shebang in the world.
I think Ubuntu and Fedora's strategy is better for now.
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
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>
>
>
> On 19 Sep 2014 17:38, "Bohusla
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> On 19 Sep 2014 17:38, "Bohuslav Kabrda" < bkab...@redhat.com > wrote:
> > - "Similarly, the more general python command should be installed whenever
> > any version of Python is installed and should invoke the same version of
> > Python as either python2 or python3."
On 19 Sep 2014 17:38, "Bohuslav Kabrda" wrote:
> - "Similarly, the more general python command should be installed
whenever any version of Python is installed and should invoke the same
version of Python as either python2 or python3."
>
> The important word in the second point is, I think, *whenev
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 04:44:26AM -0400, Donald Stufft wrote:
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> > On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:31 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
> >
> > Hi, as Fedora is getting closer to having python3 as a default, I'm
> > being more and more asked by Fedora users/contributors what'll
> > "/usr/bin/python" invoke w
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:31 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
>
> Hi,
> as Fedora is getting closer to having python3 as a default, I'm being more
> and more asked by Fedora users/contributors what'll "/usr/bin/python" invoke
> when we achieve this (Fedora 22 hopefully). So I was rereading PEP 394 and
Hi,
as Fedora is getting closer to having python3 as a default, I'm being more and
more asked by Fedora users/contributors what'll "/usr/bin/python" invoke when
we achieve this (Fedora 22 hopefully). So I was rereading PEP 394 and I think I
need a small clarification regarding two points in the
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