Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3149 thoughts

2010-09-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 12, 2010, at 04:10 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: >> Does PEP 3149 have any advantage for Windows installations? > >I don't see any immediate advantage. The problem that the PEP addresses >typically doesn't exist on Windows. Cool. >>> 2. Why does the PEP recommend installing stuff >>> into /u

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3149 thoughts

2010-09-12 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> If it's useful on unix like systems, why shouldn't it be useful on > windows? Multiple versions of python can be installed on windows > too. And people might also like to share their packages between > installations. Multiple versions of Python install into distinct directories, so extension mod

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3149 thoughts

2010-09-12 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> I only mandated ./configure-based builds to be PEP 3149 conforming. I have no > objection to expanding the PEP to include Windows builds, but I'm not sure > it's necessary and it would take a Windows build expert to make and test those > changes. > > Does PEP 3149 have any advantage for Windows

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3149 thoughts

2010-09-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 08, 2010, at 09:42 AM, Ralf Schmitt wrote: >If it's useful on unix like systems, why shouldn't it be useful on >windows? Multiple versions of python can be installed on windows >too. And people might also like to share their packages between >installations. I guess the point is *I* don't k

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3149 thoughts

2010-09-08 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Ralf Schmitt wrote: > Barry Warsaw writes: > >> >> Section added: >> >> Windows >> === >> >> This PEP only addresses build issues on POSIX systems that use the >> ``configure`` script.  While Windows or other platform support is not >> explicitly disallowed und

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3149 thoughts

2010-09-08 Thread Ralf Schmitt
Barry Warsaw writes: > > Section added: > > Windows > === > > This PEP only addresses build issues on POSIX systems that use the > ``configure`` script. While Windows or other platform support is not > explicitly disallowed under this PEP, platform expertise is needed in > order to evaluate,

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3149 thoughts

2010-09-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 05, 2010, at 11:39 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: >Notice, however, that the PEP also talks about creating different names >for different compilation options of the same Python binary. This >applies to Windows as well (as the PEP actually points out: there is >_d.pyd and .pyd). > >In any case,

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3149 thoughts

2010-09-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 06, 2010, at 03:40 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: >Reading the related paragraph in the PEP, it seems to me that the use >of package as in "these distributions install third party (i.e. >non-standard library) packages ..." is too vague. Rephrased as: [...]these distributions install thir

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3149 thoughts

2010-09-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 05, 2010, at 07:22 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: >I know the PEP is accepted, but I would still like to see some >changes/clarifications. > >1. What is the effect of this PEP on Windows? Is this a Linux-only > feature? If not, who is going to provide the changes for Windows? > (More specif

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3149 thoughts

2010-09-06 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Georg Brandl, 2010-09-05] > Am 05.09.2010 19:22, schrieb "Martin v. Löwis": > > 2. Why does the PEP recommend installing stuff into /usr/share/pyshared? > >According to the Linux FHS, /usr/share is for Architecture- > >independent data, see > > > > http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3149 thoughts

2010-09-05 Thread David Cournapeau
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: > Am 05.09.2010 19:22, schrieb "Martin v. Löwis": >> I know the PEP is accepted, but I would still like to see some >> changes/clarifications. >> >> 1. What is the effect of this PEP on Windows? Is this a Linux-only >>    feature? If not, who is

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3149 thoughts

2010-09-05 Thread Martin v. Löwis
>> 1. What is the effect of this PEP on Windows? Is this a Linux-only >>feature? If not, who is going to provide the changes for Windows? >>(More specifically: if this is indeed meant for Windows, and >>if no Windows implementation arrives before 3.2b1, I'd ask that >>the changes be

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3149 thoughts

2010-09-05 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 05.09.2010 19:22, schrieb "Martin v. Löwis": > I know the PEP is accepted, but I would still like to see some > changes/clarifications. > > 1. What is the effect of this PEP on Windows? Is this a Linux-only >feature? If not, who is going to provide the changes for Windows? >(More specif

[Python-Dev] PEP 3149 thoughts

2010-09-05 Thread Martin v. Löwis
I know the PEP is accepted, but I would still like to see some changes/clarifications. 1. What is the effect of this PEP on Windows? Is this a Linux-only feature? If not, who is going to provide the changes for Windows? (More specifically: if this is indeed meant for Windows, and if no Wi