Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Distributed RCS

2005-08-15 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 04:30, Benji York wrote: > Martin v. Löwis wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>Granted. What is the cost of waiting a bit longer to see if it (or > >>something else) gets more usable and would hit the mark better than svn? > > > > It depends on what "a bit" is. Waiting a

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Distributed RCS

2005-08-15 Thread Benji York
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>Granted. What is the cost of waiting a bit longer to see if it (or >>something else) gets more usable and would hit the mark better than svn? > > It depends on what "a bit" is. Waiting a month would be fine; waiting > two years might be pointles

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Distributed RCS

2005-08-14 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Gustavo Niemeyer wrote: > You may use rsync: > > rsync -av --delete bazaar-ng.org::bazaar-ng/bzr/bzr.dev . > > Or bzr itself: > > bzr branch http://bazaar-ng.org/bzr/bzr.dev Ah, thanks. Fetching it with rsync is so much faster than fetching it with bzr, though... Regards, Martin __

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Distributed RCS

2005-08-14 Thread Daniel Berlin
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 00:15 +0200, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > Daniel Berlin wrote: > > I'm not sure how big python's repo is, but you probably want to use the > > attached patch to speed up cvs2svn. It changes it to reconstruct the > > revisions on it's own instead of calling cvs or rcs. > > Tha

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Distributed RCS

2005-08-14 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Daniel Berlin wrote: > I'm not sure how big python's repo is, but you probably want to use the > attached patch to speed up cvs2svn. It changes it to reconstruct the > revisions on it's own instead of calling cvs or rcs. Thanks for the patch, but cvs2svn works fairly well for us as is (in the ve

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Distributed RCS

2005-08-14 Thread Gustavo Niemeyer
> I had problems finding the place where the bazaar-NG source code > repository is stored - is there a public access to the HEAD version? You may use rsync: rsync -av --delete bazaar-ng.org::bazaar-ng/bzr/bzr.dev . Or bzr itself: bzr branch http://bazaar-ng.org/bzr/bzr.dev Regards, -- Gu

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Distributed RCS

2005-08-14 Thread Daniel Berlin
On Sun, 2005-08-14 at 11:12 -0600, Neil Schemenauer wrote: > On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 06:16:11PM +0200, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > > It depends on what "a bit" is. Waiting a month would be fine; waiting > > two years might be pointless. > > It looks like the process of converting a CVS repository t

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Distributed RCS

2005-08-14 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Guido van Rossum wrote: > It sounds as if bazaar-NG can use a bit of its own medicine -- I hope > everybody who found a bug in their tools submitted a patch! :-) I had problems finding the place where the bazaar-NG source code repository is stored - is there a public access to the HEAD version? Th

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Distributed RCS

2005-08-14 Thread Gustavo Niemeyer
> Like Skip, I tried experimenting with it. While that may be the right > model, I don't think it is the right software. In bazaar-ng 0.0.5 (which > is what Debian unstable currently has), bzr commit would not open > a text editor, but require the commit message on the command line; > selective com

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Distributed RCS

2005-08-14 Thread Neal Becker
I encourage everyone to look at mercurial. It is also written in Python. I am using it daily. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/pyth

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Distributed RCS

2005-08-14 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 8/14/05, Neil Schemenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It looks like the process of converting a CVS repository to > Bazaar-NG does not yet work well (to be kind). The path > CVS->SVN->bzr would probably work better. I suspect cvs2svn has > been used on quite a few CVS repositories already. I

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Distributed RCS

2005-08-14 Thread Neil Schemenauer
On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 06:16:11PM +0200, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > It depends on what "a bit" is. Waiting a month would be fine; waiting > two years might be pointless. It looks like the process of converting a CVS repository to Bazaar-NG does not yet work well (to be kind). The path CVS->SVN->

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Distributed RCS

2005-08-14 Thread Martin v. Löwis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Granted. What is the cost of waiting a bit longer to see if it (or > something else) gets more usable and would hit the mark better than svn? I > presume that once we switch away from cvs to something else, it's unlikely > we would switch again unless some huge roadbloc

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Distributed RCS

2005-08-14 Thread skip
Martin> Like Skip, I tried experimenting with it. While that may be the Martin> right model, I don't think it is the right software. [problems Martin> elided] Martin> So I assume that using bazaar-ng right now would cause problems Martin> in day-to-day usage. Granted. What

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Distributed RCS

2005-08-14 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Guido van Rossum wrote: > With permission, I'm forwarding an email from Mark Shuttleworth about > Bazaar-2 (aka Bazaar-NG), a distributed source control system (not > entirely unlike bitkeeper, I presume) written in Python and in use by > the Ubuntu system. What do people think of using this for Py

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Distributed RCS

2005-08-14 Thread skip
Anthony> The current bazaar, last time I looked (a few months ago) did Anthony> not work on Windows. This is a complete deal-breaker for us, I assume it would be a deal breaker for many people. According to the Bazaar-NG website it works on "Linux, Windows and Mac OS X, or any system with

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Distributed RCS

2005-08-13 Thread Anthony Baxter
I have great hopes for baz-ng, but I don't know that it's really ready for production use just yet. I don't know that we want to be right out on the bleeding edge of revision control systems for Python. The current bazaar, last time I looked (a few months ago) did not work on Windows. This is

[Python-Dev] Fwd: Distributed RCS

2005-08-13 Thread Guido van Rossum
Another fwd, describing how Steve Alexander's group user bazaar. --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) -- Forwarded message -- From: Steve Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Aug 12, 2005 4:00 PM Subject: Re: Distributed RCS To: Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Distributed RCS

2005-08-13 Thread Neil Schemenauer
On Sat, Aug 13, 2005 at 02:27:22PM -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote: > What do people think of using this for Python? I think it deserves consideration. One idea would be to have a Bazaar-NG repository that tracks the CVS SF repository. I haven't tried it yet but there is a tool called Tailor[1] th

[Python-Dev] Fwd: Distributed RCS

2005-08-13 Thread Guido van Rossum
With permission, I'm forwarding an email from Mark Shuttleworth about Bazaar-2 (aka Bazaar-NG), a distributed source control system (not entirely unlike bitkeeper, I presume) written in Python and in use by the Ubuntu system. What do people think of using this for Python? Is it the right model? Do