Re: [Python-Dev] Capsule Summary of Some Packaging/Deployment Technology Concerns

2008-03-19 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> The Python sandbox has a setuptools directory. Is this the canonical > location for the code? Yes, it is. > If so, then anybody who has Python commit > privileges can commit to it and help further develop setuptools. They can, but they shouldn't. Nothing should be committed there without

Re: [Python-Dev] Capsule Summary of Some Packaging/Deployment Technology Concerns

2008-03-19 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 05:15 PM 3/19/2008 -0500, Jeff Rush wrote: >Phillip J. Eby wrote: > > At 03:57 AM 3/19/2008 -0500, Jeff Rush wrote: > >> Are you open to giving certain others patch view/commit privileges to > >> setuptools? > > > > Jim Fulton has such already. I'm open to extending that to others who > > have

Re: [Python-Dev] Capsule Summary of Some Packaging/Deployment Technology Concerns

2008-03-19 Thread Jeff Rush
Phillip J. Eby wrote: > At 03:57 AM 3/19/2008 -0500, Jeff Rush wrote: >> Are you open to giving certain others patch view/commit privileges to >> setuptools? > > Jim Fulton has such already. I'm open to extending that to others who > have a good grasp of the subtleties involved. > > Truthfully

Re: [Python-Dev] Capsule Summary of Some Packaging/Deployment Technology Concerns

2008-03-19 Thread Matthias Klose
Phillip J. Eby writes: > >7. Many wanted to ability to install files anywhere in the install tree and > > not just under the Python package. Under distutils this was possible > > but > > it was removed in setuptools for security reasons. > > It wasn't security, it was manageability. Egg

Re: [Python-Dev] Capsule Summary of Some Packaging/Deployment Technology Concerns

2008-03-19 Thread Matthias Klose
Jeff Rush writes: > I was in a Packaging BoF yesterday and, although not very relevant to the > packager bootstrap thread, Guido has asked me to post some of the concerns. We did address many topics on both days, I added the following topics which were addressed on the Friday BoF only, see http:/

Re: [Python-Dev] Capsule Summary of Some Packaging/Deployment Technology Concerns

2008-03-19 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 03:57 AM 3/19/2008 -0500, Jeff Rush wrote: >Are you open to giving certain others patch view/commit privileges >to setuptools? Jim Fulton has such already. I'm open to extending that to others who have a good grasp of the subtleties involved. Truthfully, if we can just get 0.6 put to bed, I

Re: [Python-Dev] Capsule Summary of Some Packaging/Deployment Technology Concerns

2008-03-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 19, 2008, at 3:57 AM, Jeff Rush wrote: > > I and others appreciate your call for more patches on various > topics. However > a long delay in applying them will discourage contribution. Are you > open to > giving certain others patch view/c

Re: [Python-Dev] Capsule Summary of Some Packaging/Deployment Technology Concerns

2008-03-19 Thread Jeff Rush
Phillip J. Eby wrote: > > I'm actually happy to hear that there's this much energy available -- > hopefully some of it can be harnessed towards positive solutions. > > When I began developing setuptools, I often asked for the input of > packagers, developers, etc., through the distutils-sig...

Re: [Python-Dev] Capsule Summary of Some Packaging/Deployment Technology Concerns

2008-03-17 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 05:10 PM 3/17/2008 -0500, Jeff Rush wrote: >I was in a Packaging BoF yesterday and, although not very relevant to the >packager bootstrap thread, Guido has asked me to post some of the concerns. > >The BoF drew about 15 people, many of whom were packagers for Red Hat, Ubuntu >and such. Everyone

[Python-Dev] Capsule Summary of Some Packaging/Deployment Technology Concerns

2008-03-17 Thread Jeff Rush
I was in a Packaging BoF yesterday and, although not very relevant to the packager bootstrap thread, Guido has asked me to post some of the concerns. The BoF drew about 15 people, many of whom were packagers for Red Hat, Ubuntu and such. Everyone had strong expressions of frustration with the s