Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-03-04 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Heimes wrote: | More than 5 years ago Zope Corp was working on a Berkeley DB backend for | ZODB. It was more of a marketing decision to show large companies that | ZODB is using a well known database instead of a self made one. The | project

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-03-04 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guido van Rossum wrote: | Correction: the subversion BerkeleyDB backend is still very much alive | and kicking. There were some early issues (they did things that | SleepyCat told them not to do :-) but it was corrected and it's still | working fine fo

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-03-04 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Heimes wrote: | Oh yeah ... ZODB4 and BDBStorage ... a dark chapter starting with high | hopes and ending in tragedy ... Several projects like Zope and | Subversion worked hard on a a Berkeley DB backend but in the end all | projects had the

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-28 Thread Christian Heimes
Oleg Broytmann wrote: >Sorry, can I ask an additional question? These words - what they were > about? about the architecture of BDBStorage and Subversion, or about the > very BerkeleyDB, or about what? I don't know all details and it was several years ago so some of my saying may not be correc

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-28 Thread Guido van Rossum
Correction: the subversion BerkeleyDB backend is still very much alive and kicking. There were some early issues (they did things that SleepyCat told them not to do :-) but it was corrected and it's still working fine for several large users. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Christian Heimes <[EM

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-28 Thread Christian Heimes
Guido van Rossum wrote: > This was the fault of the svn developers, not of BerkeleyDB. And svn > has fixed the issues. I got that in your last mail ;) Christian ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/p

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-28 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guido van Rossum wrote: > > Correction: the subversion BerkeleyDB backend is still very much alive > > and kicking. There were some early issues (they did things that > > SleepyCat told them not to do :-) but it was

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-28 Thread Christian Heimes
Guido van Rossum wrote: > Correction: the subversion BerkeleyDB backend is still very much alive > and kicking. There were some early issues (they did things that > SleepyCat told them not to do :-) but it was corrected and it's still > working fine for several large users. Thanks for the correcti

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-28 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 09:00:54PM +0100, Christian Heimes wrote: > Oh yeah ... ZODB4 and BDBStorage ... a dark chapter starting with high > hopes and ending in tragedy ... Several projects like Zope and > Subversion worked hard on a a Berkeley DB backend but in the end all > projects had the same

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-28 Thread Christian Heimes
Fred Drake wrote: > The BDBStorage is long gone at this point. Few are so unfortunate as > to remember it (though a few who may just might be on this list). :-) Oh yeah ... ZODB4 and BDBStorage ... a dark chapter starting with high hopes and ending in tragedy ... Several projects like Zope and

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 27, 2008, at 10:45 PM, Fred Drake wrote: > On Feb 27, 2008, at 9:13 AM, A.M. Kuchling wrote: >> Doing a code search finds a fair number of users of the module: >> Zope's >> BDBStorage, ... > > The BDBStorage is long gone at this point. Few are so unfortunate as > to remember it (though a

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-27 Thread Fred Drake
On Feb 27, 2008, at 9:13 AM, A.M. Kuchling wrote: > Doing a code search finds a fair number of users of the module: Zope's > BDBStorage, ... The BDBStorage is long gone at this point. Few are so unfortunate as to remember it (though a few who may just might be on this list). :-) -Fred -

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-27 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Maybe the flaky tests could be moved towards the end? This way we could > at least see if the other tests work. It's intentional that the tests run in a random order. Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.pytho

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-27 Thread Thomas Heller
Neal Norwitz schrieb: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Well, in my opinion "batteries included" is great, but not when one of >> the batteries consistently acts up and requires a good shake to get >> working again. The bsddb module has consistent

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-27 Thread Neal Norwitz
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, in my opinion "batteries included" is great, but not when one of > the batteries consistently acts up and requires a good shake to get > working again. The bsddb module has consistent reliability issues when > i

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-27 Thread A.M. Kuchling
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:46:04PM -0800, Gregory P. Smith wrote: > My opinion on bsddb as a standard library module is based mostly on "its > always been there" and a vague memory of the last time this came up I > thought people piped up saying they liked batteries being included, > including bsdd

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-26 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Gregory P. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 2/26/08, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Facundo Batista > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 2008/2/26, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > > > T

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-26 Thread Gregory P. Smith
On 2/26/08, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Facundo Batista > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2008/2/26, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > They check out bsddb from subversion, see Tools/buildbot/external. > > > If you don't trust th

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-26 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:04:47PM -0800, Brett Cannon wrote: > Or we can get rid of bsddb and not have the problem anymore. =) +1 for smaller stdlib and fewer problems. Oleg. -- Oleg Broytmannhttp://phd.pp.ru/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmers don't die, th

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-26 Thread Fred Drake
On Feb 26, 2008, at 5:04 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > Or we can get rid of bsddb and not have the problem anymore. =) +1 for fewer problems. :) -Fred -- Fred Drake ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mail

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-26 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Facundo Batista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/2/26, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > They check out bsddb from subversion, see Tools/buildbot/external. > > If you don't trust that they did so correctly, edit the script to > > remove bsddb, che

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-26 Thread Facundo Batista
2008/2/26, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > They check out bsddb from subversion, see Tools/buildbot/external. > If you don't trust that they did so correctly, edit the script to > remove bsddb, check that in, wait for them to delete it, then revert > the script, check in again, and see

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-26 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> - X86 XP-4: idem. For this two, how can be tried if the bsddb lib in > those windows is correctly installed? They check out bsddb from subversion, see Tools/buildbot/external. If you don't trust that they did so correctly, edit the script to remove bsddb, check that in, wait for them to delete i

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-26 Thread Bill Janssen
> - Alpha Tru64: test_smtplib.py is flaky, and _ssl.c is not compiled > correctly. Neil is hunting this, I think. Last time we looked at the _ssl problem, the machine had an out-of-date installation of OpenSSL. Don't know if that ever got rectified; I just crossed that buildbot off my list :-).

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-26 Thread Facundo Batista
2008/2/25, Thomas Hervé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I've worked on that problem during the bug day. I've open a ticket with > a patch at http://bugs.python.org/issue2168. Most of the buildbots are green now!!! Thank you all! This community is as awesome as Python itself, ;) Three remains in red, t

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-25 Thread Thomas Hervé
Facundo Batista a écrit : > 2008/2/25, Facundo Batista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >> 2008/2/25, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> > Thomas Herve has worked out a patch: http://bugs.python.org/issue2177 >> >> After reviewing, testing and etc, I commited it. Let's see the buildbots! :) >>

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-25 Thread Facundo Batista
2008/2/25, Facundo Batista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/2/25, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Thomas Herve has worked out a patch: http://bugs.python.org/issue2177 > > After reviewing, testing and etc, I commited it. Let's see the buildbots! :) Some are green, now, but others still ar

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-25 Thread Facundo Batista
2008/2/25, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Thomas Herve has worked out a patch: http://bugs.python.org/issue2177 After reviewing, testing and etc, I commited it. Let's see the buildbots! :) -- .Facundo Blog: http://www.taniquetil.com.ar/plog/ PyAr: http://www.python.org/ar/ ___

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-25 Thread Christian Heimes
Facundo Batista wrote: > All fail in test_compiler.py. Thomas Herve has worked out a patch: http://bugs.python.org/issue2177 Christian ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: ht

[Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-25 Thread Facundo Batista
All fail in test_compiler.py. -- .Facundo Blog: http://www.taniquetil.com.ar/plog/ PyAr: http://www.python.org/ar/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python