Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Fred Drake
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Daniel Stutzbach wrote: > Obviously, it would not be possible to write hooks that reject changesets Of course, this is one of the more interesting ways to use hooks. Since there's no current expectation that running our own will be a problem, why don't we convert

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:25 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > Of course, with a hosted service, you often can't run hooks at all, > so the effort to write them is also reduced :-) > It should be easy to write an automated script that pulls the latest changes from the hosted service and then runs ho

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Do we expect Mercurial to require more, less, or about the same amount of > babysitting as the current Subversion repository? The ongoing effort is to manage write access; this is not going to change with Mercurial. With a hosted service, you still need someone who gives write permissions to

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Xavier Morel
On 2010-09-29, at 15:26 , Tarek Ziadé wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:36 PM, wrote: >> On 01:13 am, st...@holdenweb.com wrote: >>> I see that Atlassian have just taken over BitBucket, the Mercurial >>> hosting company. IIRC Atlassian offered to host our issue tracking on >>> JIRA, but in the e

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 16:43, Barry Warsaw wrote: > Do we expect Mercurial to require more, less, or about the same amount of > babysitting as the current Subversion repository?  I would think no more and > Subversion hasn't been much of a problem. Yeah, should be about the same. Cheers, Dirkj

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 28, 2010, at 09:13 PM, Steve Holden wrote: >I see that Atlassian have just taken over BitBucket, the Mercurial >hosting company. IIRC Atlassian offered to host our issue tracking on >JIRA, but in the end we decided to eat our own dog food and went with >roundup. I was an advocate for JIRA

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:36 PM, wrote: > On 01:13 am, st...@holdenweb.com wrote: >> >> I see that Atlassian have just taken over BitBucket, the Mercurial >> hosting company. IIRC Atlassian offered to host our issue tracking on >> JIRA, but in the end we decided to eat our own dog food and went w

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Steve Holden
On 9/29/2010 6:32 AM, Ben Finney wrote: > Dirkjan Ochtman writes: > >> Still, I think the flexibility of self-hosting (in terms of hooks and >> extension -- for example the one that would allow lookup by SVN rev) >> should win out here. > > Not only the flexibility, but the autonomy. Hosting the

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread exarkun
On 01:13 am, st...@holdenweb.com wrote: I see that Atlassian have just taken over BitBucket, the Mercurial hosting company. IIRC Atlassian offered to host our issue tracking on JIRA, but in the end we decided to eat our own dog food and went with roundup. I'm wondering if they'd be similarly int

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Xavier Morel
On 2010-09-29, at 11:50 , Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:03:29 +0200 > Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: >> >> Anyway, I don't think using Bitbucket buys us much. It could be nice >> to keep a mirror there for redundancy and because it might make >> contributing slightly easier for non-commi

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:35, Victor Stinner wrote: > Can't we rewrite the history when converting from svn to hg to use real names > instead of logins? I've been doing that since the start, look at the test repo on hg.p.o. Cheers, Dirkjan ___ Python

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 29.09.2010 09:03, schrieb Dirkjan Ochtman: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 03:13, Steve Holden wrote: >> I see that Atlassian have just taken over BitBucket, the Mercurial >> hosting company. IIRC Atlassian offered to host our issue tracking on >> JIRA, but in the end we decided to eat our own dog fo

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Ben Finney
Dirkjan Ochtman writes: > Still, I think the flexibility of self-hosting (in terms of hooks and > extension -- for example the one that would allow lookup by SVN rev) > should win out here. Not only the flexibility, but the autonomy. Hosting the source code on systems either paid for by PSF fund

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:03:29 +0200 Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > > Anyway, I don't think using Bitbucket buys us much. It could be nice > to keep a mirror there for redundancy and because it might make > contributing slightly easier for non-committers, but it won't allow > doing all kinds of custom ho

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Victor Stinner
Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 08:58:49, Brett Cannon a écrit : > The trick would be managing accounts. I would assume either everyone > would need bitbucket accounts to add as contributors to a repo, or a > dummy python-dev user account would be created where select core devs > could add SSH keys t

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 08:58, Brett Cannon wrote: > Looking at their pricing model, we don't need permission; public repos > can have unlimited contributors. Plus bitbucket supports CNAMEs so we > would also be able to still have hg.python.org for accessing the > repos. > > The trick would be man

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 03:13, Steve Holden wrote: > I see that Atlassian have just taken over BitBucket, the Mercurial > hosting company. IIRC Atlassian offered to host our issue tracking on > JIRA, but in the end we decided to eat our own dog food and went with > roundup. > > I'm wondering if th

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 18:13, Steve Holden wrote: > I see that Atlassian have just taken over BitBucket, the Mercurial > hosting company. IIRC Atlassian offered to host our issue tracking on > JIRA, but in the end we decided to eat our own dog food and went with > roundup. That's right. Enough o

[Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-28 Thread Steve Holden
I see that Atlassian have just taken over BitBucket, the Mercurial hosting company. IIRC Atlassian offered to host our issue tracking on JIRA, but in the end we decided to eat our own dog food and went with roundup. I'm wondering if they'd be similarly interested in supporting our Hg server. Or is