Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-04-03 Thread Jan Claeys
Op maandag 30-03-2009 om 21:54 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Guido van Rossum: > But is his humility enough to cancel out Linus's attitude? I hope not, or the /.-crowd would become desperate... ;-) -- Jan Claeys ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-D

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-04-01 Thread Paul Moore
2009/4/1 Tres Seaver : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >> I also just wrote a long post about the comparison of bzr to hg >> responding to a comment on baz...@canonical.com.  I won't recap it >> here but it might be of interest. > > Thank you very

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-31 Thread Alex Martelli
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Alexandre Vassalotti wrote: ... > html > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/bazaar/2009q1/055872.html > Perfect, thanks! Alex ___ Python-Dev mailing list

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-31 Thread Alex Martelli
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Alexandre Vassalotti wrote: ... > html > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/bazaar/2009q1/055872.html > Perfect, thanks! Alex ___ Python-Dev mailing list

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-31 Thread Alexandre Vassalotti
2009/3/31 Alex Martelli : > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: >> Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> >> > I also just wrote a long post about the comparison of bzr to hg >> > responding to a comment on baz...@canonical.com.  I won't recap it >> > here but it might be of interest. >> >>

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-31 Thread Alex Martelli
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > > I also just wrote a long post about the comparison of bzr to hg > > responding to a comment on baz...@canonical.com. I won't recap it > > here but it might b

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-31 Thread Alex Martelli
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > > I also just wrote a long post about the comparison of bzr to hg > > responding to a comment on baz...@canonical.com. I won't recap it > > here but it might b

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-31 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > I also just wrote a long post about the comparison of bzr to hg > responding to a comment on baz...@canonical.com. I won't recap it > here but it might be of interest. Thank you very much for your writeups on that thread

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-31 Thread Greg Ewing
Mike Coleman wrote: I mentioned this once on the git list and Linus' response was something like "C lets me see exactly what's going on". I'm not unsympathetic to this point of view--I'm really growing to loathe C++ partly because it *doesn't* let me see exactly what's going on--but I'm not con

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-31 Thread Eduardo O. Padoan
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Mike Coleman wrote: > It looks like there might be a Python clone sprouting here: > >    http://gitorious.org/projects/git-python/ AFAIK, git-python is just a lib to manipulate git repos from python, not a git clone. Dulwich is more like it: http://samba.org/~jel

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-31 Thread Nick Coghlan
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Nick Coghlan writes: > > > Every single git command line example I have seen gives me exactly the > > same gut reaction I get whenever I have to read Perl code. > > Every single one? Sounds to me like the cause is probably something > you ate, not anything you read

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-31 Thread Mike Coleman
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > I also just wrote a long post about the comparison of bzr to hg > responding to a comment on baz...@canonical.com.  I won't recap it > here but it might be of interest. I found the post interesting. Here's a link to the start of the

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-31 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Nick Coghlan writes: > Every single git command line example I have seen gives me exactly the > same gut reaction I get whenever I have to read Perl code. Every single one? Sounds to me like the cause is probably something you ate, not anything you read. In the examples in the PEP, about 80%

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-31 Thread Mike Coleman
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > Yeah, I also think I'll just stop developing Python now and suggest > that you all switch to Java, which has clearly won the mindshare war > for languages. :-) Heh. :-) Guess I should have said "mindshare among people whose technical op

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-31 Thread Terry Reedy
Aahz wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2009, Terry Reedy wrote: Michael Urman wrote: Guido: We're switching to Mercurial (Hg). And two hours later, GNOME announces their migration to git is underway. I'd suspect a series of April Fools jokes, if it weren't two days early. :) Like Python, Gnome was/is us

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-31 Thread Brett Cannon
2009/3/31 Nick Coghlan > Mike Coleman wrote: > > Just for curiosity's sake, could someone outline the five (or so) most > > significant pluses of hg relative to git? > > Every single git command line example I have seen gives me exactly the > same gut reaction I get whenever I have to read Perl c

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-31 Thread Nick Coghlan
Mike Coleman wrote: > Just for curiosity's sake, could someone outline the five (or so) most > significant pluses of hg relative to git? Every single git command line example I have seen gives me exactly the same gut reaction I get whenever I have to read Perl code. You can extol the tool's virtue

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-30 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mike Coleman writes: > Just for curiosity's sake, could someone outline the five (or so) > most significant pluses of hg relative to git? I think really it comes down to Guido's intuition. However, without attempting to channel Guido, as the git proponent in the PEP I'd like to go on record as

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-30 Thread Steve Holden
Guido van Rossum wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Mike Coleman wrote: >> Just for curiosity's sake, could someone outline the five (or so) most >> significant pluses of hg relative to git? >> >> >> (My personal feeling is that any of the three is a huge improvement >> over subversion. I

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-30 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Aahz wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009, Terry Reedy wrote: >> Michael Urman wrote: >>> Guido: We're switching to Mercurial (Hg). >>> >>> And two hours later, GNOME announces their migration to git is >>> underway. I'd suspect a series of April Fools jokes, i

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-30 Thread Aahz
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009, Terry Reedy wrote: > Michael Urman wrote: >> Guido: >>> >>> We're switching to Mercurial (Hg). >> >> And two hours later, GNOME announces their migration to git is >> underway. I'd suspect a series of April Fools jokes, if it weren't two >> days early. :) > > Like Python, Gnom

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-30 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Mike Coleman wrote: > Just for curiosity's sake, could someone outline the five (or so) most > significant pluses of hg relative to git? > > > (My personal feeling is that any of the three is a huge improvement > over subversion.  I think git probably should have b

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-30 Thread Mike Coleman
Just for curiosity's sake, could someone outline the five (or so) most significant pluses of hg relative to git? (My personal feeling is that any of the three is a huge improvement over subversion. I think git probably should have been written in Python with some stuff in C where necessary, and

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-30 Thread Terry Reedy
Michael Urman wrote: We're switching to Mercurial (Hg). And two hours later, GNOME announces their migration to git is underway. I'd suspect a series of April Fools jokes, if it weren't two days early. :) Like Python, Gnome was/is using SVN and tested (at least) GIT, bzr, and hg mirrors, sta

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-30 Thread Michael Urman
> We're switching to Mercurial (Hg). And two hours later, GNOME announces their migration to git is underway. I'd suspect a series of April Fools jokes, if it weren't two days early. :) -- Michael Urman ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-30 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guido van Rossum wrote: > The decision is made! I've selected a DVCS to use for Python. We're > switching to Mercurial (Hg). Bravo. - -- Jesus Cea Avion _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/ j...@jcea.es - http://www.jcea.es/ _/_

[Python-Dev] And the winner is...

2009-03-30 Thread Guido van Rossum
Dear Python developers, The decision is made! I've selected a DVCS to use for Python. We're switching to Mercurial (Hg). The implementation and schedule is still up in the air -- I am hoping that we can switch before the summer. It's hard to explain my reasons for choosing -- like most language