Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0 == 20th anniversary release

2011-02-25 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Georg Brandl wrote: > On 23.02.2011 20:43, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >>> Or you realized later how nice it would be, grabbed the time machine, >>> and fixed 10 release blockers on the 19th. :) >> >> No no no. He actually grabbed the time machine, drove 20 years bac

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0 == 20th anniversary release

2011-02-23 Thread Georg Brandl
On 23.02.2011 20:43, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >> Or you realized later how nice it would be, grabbed the time machine, >> and fixed 10 release blockers on the 19th. :) > > No no no. He actually grabbed the time machine, drove 20 years back, > and gave it to Guido so he could release Python 0.9 in

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0 == 20th anniversary release

2011-02-23 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 23, 2011, at 08:43 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: >> Or you realized later how nice it would be, grabbed the time machine, >> and fixed 10 release blockers on the 19th. :) > >No no no. He actually grabbed the time machine, drove 20 years back, >and gave it to Guido so he could release Python 0.

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0 == 20th anniversary release

2011-02-23 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Or you realized later how nice it would be, grabbed the time machine, > and fixed 10 release blockers on the 19th. :) No no no. He actually grabbed the time machine, drove 20 years back, and gave it to Guido so he could release Python 0.9 in time. Guido then kept the machine ever since. Regards

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0 == 20th anniversary release

2011-02-23 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2011/2/23 Georg Brandl : > On 23.02.2011 19:51, Guido van Rossum wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: >>> As pointed out by Ramiro Morales on the Python-Argentina list >>> (quoting Guido's blog post >>> http://python-history.blogspot.com/2009/01/brief-timeline-of-python.h

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0 == 20th anniversary release

2011-02-23 Thread Georg Brandl
On 23.02.2011 19:51, Guido van Rossum wrote: > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: >> As pointed out by Ramiro Morales on the Python-Argentina list >> (quoting Guido's blog post >> http://python-history.blogspot.com/2009/01/brief-timeline-of-python.html >> ) >> Python 0.9.0 was re

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0 == 20th anniversary release

2011-02-23 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: > As pointed out by Ramiro Morales on the Python-Argentina list > (quoting Guido's blog post > http://python-history.blogspot.com/2009/01/brief-timeline-of-python.html > ) > Python 0.9.0 was released on 20 Feb 1991 > > Python 3.2.0 was released

[Python-Dev] 3.2.0 == 20th anniversary release

2011-02-23 Thread Terry Reedy
As pointed out by Ramiro Morales on the Python-Argentina list (quoting Guido's blog post http://python-history.blogspot.com/2009/01/brief-timeline-of-python.html ) Python 0.9.0 was released on 20 Feb 1991 Python 3.2.0 was released on 20 Feb 2011 Python's come a long way. I look forward to the ne

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0

2011-02-18 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Michael Foord wrote: >> And the number 1 reason I consider messing with the numbering to be a bad >> idea: >> > "3.2">= "3.2.0" >> >> False > > (3, 2)>= (3, 2, 0) >> >> False >> >> If we miss anything, it could easily lead to errors like the two >> abov

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0

2011-02-17 Thread Michael Foord
On 17/02/2011 22:01, Nick Coghlan wrote: On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: For the 3.2 series, I think living with the ambiguity for another 6 months or so (however long it is until 3.2.1 is released) is the better choice. There are enough parts of the release process that in

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0

2011-02-17 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > For the 3.2 series, I think living with the ambiguity for another 6 > months or so (however long it is until 3.2.1 is released) is the > better choice. There are enough parts of the release process that > involve the version number that we *re

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0

2011-02-17 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 3:19 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: > Actually, to me, the confusion is slightly worse, and the reason to change > slightly stronger, than I initially explained. Python x.y is a version of > the *language*. CPython x.y.z is an occasional marked release of an > *implementation*. > >

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0

2011-02-17 Thread Terry Reedy
On 2/17/2011 1:36 AM, Senthil Kumaran wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: 'x.y' is known to be ambiguous and confusing. Not really. Actually, to me, the confusion is slightly worse, and the reason to change slightly stronger, than I initially explained. Python x.y i

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0

2011-02-17 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:20, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Agreed. Although better to defer it to 3.3.0 at this point. +1.0.0 for that. Yes, it's confusing, but it's going to be even more confusing if it's called 3.2 sometimes and 3.2.0 sometimes. -- Lennart Regebro: http://regebro.wordpress.com/

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0

2011-02-17 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:52:16 -0800 Brett Cannon wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 09:34, Terry Reedy wrote: > > I would like the next release called 3.2.0 rather than just 3.2. > > > > 'x.y' is known to be ambiguous and confusing. > > > > In most actual usages, I believe, it refers to the latest

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0

2011-02-16 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: > 'x.y' is known to be ambiguous and confusing. Not really. x.y seems to be saying it is a milestone (major release) and we all have got used to that convention. > In most actual usages, I believe, it refers to the latest x.y.z release. On W

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0

2011-02-16 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 17.02.2011 03:08, schrieb Raymond Hettinger: > > On Feb 16, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: >>> On Feb 16, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: >>> I would like the next release called 3.2.0 rather than just 3.2. >>> >>>

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0

2011-02-16 Thread Terry Reedy
On 2/16/2011 5:39 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Feb 16, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: I would like the next release called 3.2.0 rather than just 3.2. +1 (I'd have said +0 for the humor of it :). +0 I actually *am* only +0, since

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0

2011-02-16 Thread Raymond Hettinger
On Feb 16, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: >> On Feb 16, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: >> >>> I would like the next release called 3.2.0 rather than just 3.2. >> >> +1 >> >> (I'd have said +0 for the humor of it :). > > +0

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0

2011-02-16 Thread Westley Martínez
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 12:34 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote: > I would like the next release called 3.2.0 rather than just 3.2. - -1 ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.p

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0

2011-02-16 Thread Victor Stinner
Le mercredi 16 février 2011 à 14:05 -0500, Barry Warsaw a écrit : > On Feb 16, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > > >I would like the next release called 3.2.0 rather than just 3.2. > > +1 > > (I'd have said +0 for the humor of it :). Should we write +1.0, +1.3 or just +1? Mark can

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0

2011-02-16 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Feb 16, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > >>I would like the next release called 3.2.0 rather than just 3.2. > > +1 > > (I'd have said +0 for the humor of it :). +0 I actually *am* only +0, since I like the idea in principle, but it

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0

2011-02-16 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 16, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: >I would like the next release called 3.2.0 rather than just 3.2. +1 (I'd have said +0 for the humor of it :). -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@p

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2.0

2011-02-16 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 09:34, Terry Reedy wrote: > I would like the next release called 3.2.0 rather than just 3.2. > > 'x.y' is known to be ambiguous and confusing. > > In most actual usages, I believe, it refers to the latest x.y.z release. On > the site, the 'x.y' docs are almost always the la

[Python-Dev] 3.2.0

2011-02-16 Thread Terry Reedy
I would like the next release called 3.2.0 rather than just 3.2. 'x.y' is known to be ambiguous and confusing. In most actual usages, I believe, it refers to the latest x.y.z release. On the site, the 'x.y' docs are almost always the latest version of the docs (actually x.y.z+additional fixes)