Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-05 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 11:23:45 -0600 Brian Curtin wrote: > On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 5:20 AM, John Yeuk Hon Wong > > wrote: > >> I think it helps Luca and many others (including myself) if there is a > >> reference of the difference between 2.

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-05 Thread Brian Curtin
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote: > On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 5:20 AM, John Yeuk Hon Wong > wrote: >> I think it helps Luca and many others (including myself) if there is a >> reference of the difference between 2.7 and Python 3.3+. > > Not specifically for 2.7 and 3.3, no. This

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-05 Thread Ethan Furman
On 01/04/2014 08:20 PM, John Yeuk Hon Wong wrote: I think it helps Luca and many others (including myself) if there is a reference of the difference between 2.7 and Python 3.3+. Here's another reference: http://ptgmedia.pearsoncmg.com/imprint_downloads/informit/promotions/python/python2pytho

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 5:20 AM, John Yeuk Hon Wong wrote: > I think it helps Luca and many others (including myself) if there is a > reference of the difference between 2.7 and Python 3.3+. Not specifically for 2.7 and 3.3, no. This is a fairly complete list: http://python3porting.com/difference

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-04 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:20 PM, John Yeuk Hon Wong wrote: > I think it helps Luca and many others (including myself) if there is a > reference of the difference between 2.7 and Python 3.3+. > There are PEPs and books, but is there any such long list of references? > > If not, should we start inve

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-04 Thread John Yeuk Hon Wong
On 1/4/14 10:42 PM, Ben Finney wrote: Luca Sbardella writes: you are my heroes but this survey is quite useless, can you include more people? The survey cohort was self-selected from those who read the forums where it was posted. I wasn't aware of it so many thousands of python users. That

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-04 Thread Ben Finney
Luca Sbardella writes: > you are my heroes but this survey is quite useless, can you include more > people? The survey cohort was self-selected from those who read the forums where it was posted. > I wasn't aware of it so many thousands of python users. That statement confuses me. Were you awa

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-04 Thread Luca Sbardella
On 4 January 2014 19:21, Scott Dial wrote: > On 2014-01-02 17:54, Dan Stromberg wrote: > > I put it at https://wiki.python.org/moin/2.x-vs-3.x-survey > > It would've been nice to see some crosstabs. Pretty much any question > after Q3 is incomprehensible without splitting the respondents into > s

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-04 Thread Scott Dial
On 2014-01-02 17:54, Dan Stromberg wrote: > I put it at https://wiki.python.org/moin/2.x-vs-3.x-survey It would've been nice to see some crosstabs. Pretty much any question after Q3 is incomprehensible without splitting the respondents into sub-groups first. Of the 2.49% of people who said they'v

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Janzert
On 1/2/2014 10:01 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Dan Stromberg wrote: I don't know much (if anything ^_^) about survey methodology. I just created a 9 question survey and tossed it at a few places that Pythonistas hang out. Specifically, your methodology was to pos

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Dan Stromberg wrote: > I don't know much (if anything ^_^) about survey methodology. I just > created a 9 question survey and tossed it at a few places that > Pythonistas hang out. Specifically, your methodology was to post the link to python-list and python-dev (

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Dan Stromberg
I don't know much (if anything ^_^) about survey methodology. I just created a 9 question survey and tossed it at a few places that Pythonistas hang out. Does this look better? https://wiki.python.org/moin/2.x-vs-3.x-survey Thanks. On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Gregory P. Smith wrote: > So

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > Antoine Pitrou writes: > >> If wiki.python.org supports file uploads, it may be the place for >> publishing the results. > > Dan, can your reporting tool produce the report in HTML format (and > plots as SVG images)? That would be IMO more suita

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Gregory P. Smith
Somewhere you need to describe the survey methodology, who was surveyed, how were they selected, etc. On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Dan Stromberg wrote: > On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Antoine Pitrou > wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:10:36 -0800 > > Dan Stromberg wrote: > >> Is there a b

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Ben Finney
Antoine Pitrou writes: > If wiki.python.org supports file uploads, it may be the place for > publishing the results. Dan, can your reporting tool produce the report in HTML format (and plots as SVG images)? That would be IMO more suitable for uploading. -- \“Good morning, Pooh Bear”,

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:10:36 -0800 > Dan Stromberg wrote: >> Is there a better place to put this than: >> http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~strombrg/python-2.x-vs-3.x-survey/ > > Thank you for doing this! My pleasure. > If wiki.python.org supp

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:10:36 -0800 Dan Stromberg wrote: > Is there a better place to put this than: > http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~strombrg/python-2.x-vs-3.x-survey/ Thank you for doing this! If wiki.python.org supports file uploads, it may be the place for publishing the results. Regards Ant

[Python-Dev] 2.x vs 3.x survey results

2014-01-02 Thread Dan Stromberg
Is there a better place to put this than: http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~strombrg/python-2.x-vs-3.x-survey/ Thanks. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.or