Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 schedule

2006-05-23 Thread Anthony Baxter
Ok - we're going to skip the 3rd alpha, and the next release will be beta1, currently scheduled for June 14th. With all the changes this week from the needforspeed sprint, cutting a release seems like too much of a risk. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Py

[Python-Dev] 2.5 schedule

2006-05-23 Thread Jim Jewett
Thomas Wouters wrote: > The fact that much testing goes on between releases > as well makes the alphas even less important. I suspect the amount of MS Windows testing done between releases is fairly small. And what little there is doesn't always use the same compiler that will eventually be use

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 schedule

2006-05-23 Thread Nick Coghlan
Neal Norwitz wrote: > Anthony's schedule is a bit up in the air which means this schedule > does not reflect what reality will be. Perhaps we will skip a3 > altogether which will give more time in a sense, though not in reality > since b1 in that case will hopefully be on or before June 14. FWIW:

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 schedule

2006-05-22 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Neal Norwitz wrote: > Anthony's schedule is a bit up in the air which means this schedule > does not reflect what reality will be. Perhaps we will skip a3 > altogether which will give more time in a sense, though not in reality > since b1 in that case will hopefully be on or before June 14. FWIW:

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 schedule

2006-05-22 Thread Neal Norwitz
Anthony's schedule is a bit up in the air which means this schedule does not reflect what reality will be. Perhaps we will skip a3 altogether which will give more time in a sense, though not in reality since b1 in that case will hopefully be on or before June 14. FWIW: alpha 3: May 25, 2006

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 schedule

2006-05-21 Thread Thomas Wouters
On 5/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thomas> Allow me to pitch in my support for speeding up the releases,Thomas> then. I don't believe alpha releases (of Python) get seriousThomas> testing.Is there nobody else out there that uses Python built from the current svn re

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 schedule

2006-05-21 Thread skip
Thomas> Allow me to pitch in my support for speeding up the releases, Thomas> then. I don't believe alpha releases (of Python) get serious Thomas> testing. Is there nobody else out there that uses Python built from the current svn repository as the main Python interpreter on a day-to-

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 schedule

2006-05-21 Thread Thomas Wouters
On 5/21/06, Aahz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, May 21, 2006, Neal Norwitz wrote:> On 5/19/06, Anthony Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Remember, the feature freeze isn't until beta1. New stuff can still go >>in after the next alpha, before beta1.>> I agree. Of course, it's preferable to ge

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 schedule

2006-05-21 Thread Nick Coghlan
Aahz wrote: > On Sun, May 21, 2006, Neal Norwitz wrote: >> On 5/19/06, Anthony Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Remember, the feature freeze isn't until beta1. New stuff can still go >>> in after the next alpha, before beta1. >> I agree. Of course, it's preferable to get things in ASAP to get

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 schedule

2006-05-21 Thread Aahz
On Sun, May 21, 2006, Neal Norwitz wrote: > On 5/19/06, Anthony Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>Remember, the feature freeze isn't until beta1. New stuff can still go >>in after the next alpha, before beta1. > > I agree. Of course, it's preferable to get things in ASAP to get more > testing

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 schedule

2006-05-21 Thread Neal Norwitz
On 5/19/06, Anthony Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Remember, the feature freeze isn't until beta1. New stuff can still go > in after the next alpha, before beta1. > > And pure speedup related items aren't likely to cause feature changes > (I hope) I agree. Of course, it's preferable to get th

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 schedule

2006-05-19 Thread Anthony Baxter
On Saturday 20 May 2006 08:23, Andrew MacIntyre wrote: > I'm sorry, but I find such advancing schedules with little warning > quite objectionable. Particularly the cutoff for new functionality > implicit in the last of the alphas. Nonono. Feature freeze is beta1. Anthony -- Anthony Baxter <

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 schedule

2006-05-19 Thread Anthony Baxter
Remember, the feature freeze isn't until beta1. New stuff can still go in after the next alpha, before beta1. And pure speedup related items aren't likely to cause feature changes (I hope) Anthony ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 schedule

2006-05-19 Thread Andrew MacIntyre
Neal Norwitz wrote: > I moved up the 2.5 release date by a bit. Ideally, I wanted to have > the final on July 27 which corresponds to OSCON. This seems too > aggressive since I haven't updated the schedule publicly. So the new > schedule has rc1 slated for July 27. > > http://www.python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 schedule

2006-05-19 Thread Raymond Hettinger
Aahz wrote: >On Thu, May 18, 2006, Neal Norwitz wrote: > > >>I moved up the 2.5 release date by a bit. Ideally, I wanted to have >>the final on July 27 which corresponds to OSCON. This seems too >>aggressive since I haven't updated the schedule publicly. So the new >>schedule has rc1 slated f

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.5 schedule

2006-05-19 Thread Aahz
On Thu, May 18, 2006, Neal Norwitz wrote: > > I moved up the 2.5 release date by a bit. Ideally, I wanted to have > the final on July 27 which corresponds to OSCON. This seems too > aggressive since I haven't updated the schedule publicly. So the new > schedule has rc1 slated for July 27. > >

[Python-Dev] 2.5 schedule

2006-05-18 Thread Neal Norwitz
I moved up the 2.5 release date by a bit. Ideally, I wanted to have the final on July 27 which corresponds to OSCON. This seems too aggressive since I haven't updated the schedule publicly. So the new schedule has rc1 slated for July 27. http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0356/ So far we'v