Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-09 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 06.01.14 17:26, schrieb Michael Urman: > Here's some more guesswork. Does it seem possible that msiexec is > trying to verify the revocation status of the certificate used to sign > the python .msi file? Per > http://blogs.technet.com/b/pki/archive/2006/11/30/basic-crl-checking-with-certutil.asp

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-09 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 08.01.14 16:03, schrieb Nick Coghlan: > On 9 January 2014 00:43, Bob Hanson wrote: >> When I read this comment of yours, Guido, I immediately started >> wondering about this. You may well be right -- indeed, I have a >> very old install (c.2007) which has not been updated (other than >> one or

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-08 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 9 January 2014 00:43, Bob Hanson wrote: > When I read this comment of yours, Guido, I immediately started > wondering about this. You may well be right -- indeed, I have a > very old install (c.2007) which has not been updated (other than > one or three new MS "drivers"). > > Perhaps the Python

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-08 Thread Bob Hanson
[Top-post fixed (use-case is an exception to the GvR rule ;-) ) and some attributions restored with my additional comments following for the ease of future readers.] TL;DR: Outbound-connection attempts seem to be happening only to me, therefore, most likely not a Python problem -- but some problem

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-06 Thread Michael Urman
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > Since MSIEXEC.EXE is a legit binary (not coming from our packager) and > Akamai is a legitimate company (MS most likely has an agreement with > them), at this point I would assume that there's something that > MSIEXEC.EXE wants to get from

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-06 Thread Paul Moore
On 6 January 2014 15:29, Bob Hanson wrote: > At any rate, the attempts to connect to the network seem like > undesirable behavior to this man. If pip is necessary, then some > Window users may well end up without it -- and then not know why > something later doesn't work. I have installed python

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-06 Thread Guido van Rossum
Since MSIEXEC.EXE is a legit binary (not coming from our packager) and Akamai is a legitimate company (MS most likely has an agreement with them), at this point I would assume that there's something that MSIEXEC.EXE wants to get from Akamai, which is unintentionally but harmlessly triggered by the

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-06 Thread Bob Hanson
[For the record: I'm running 32bit Windows XP (Pro) SP2 and installing "for all users."] TL;DR: No matter what I tried this morning re uninstalling and reinstalling 3.4.0b2, pip or no pip, MSI still tried to connect to the Akamai URLs. On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 23:06:49 -0500, R. David Murray wrote: >

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-05 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Stephen J. Turnbull writes: > .deploy.static.akamitechnologies.com (according to host ), Ignore this; *my* aging eyes dropped the "A" in "akamAitechnologies.com". Sorry for the noise. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.py

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-05 Thread Bob Hanson
On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 23:54:41 -0600, Tim Peters wrote: [Bob Hanson] > >> ... magnifying glass, I see it is two very long URLs ending with > >> something like after the blah-blah: < ... akametechnology.com> [Stephen J. Turnbull] > > I suppose you tried cutting and pasting? [...] Tried, but was uns

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-05 Thread Christian Heimes
On 06.01.2014 05:12, Donald Stufft wrote: ensurepip uses —no-index so it shouldn’t be hitting the network at all. Do you have a test to ensure that ensurepip doesn't try to use network connections? You could e.g. mock socket.create_connection() and socket.socket() in a custom socket module. T

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-05 Thread Tim Peters
[Bob Hanson] >> ... magnifying glass, I see it is two very long URLs ending with >> something like after the blah-blah: < ... akametechnology.com> [Stephen J. Turnbull] > I suppose you tried cutting and pasting? Note that you don't need to > be exact as long as you're pretty sure you got the whol

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-05 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Bob Hanson writes: > On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 20:09:23 -0600, Tim Peters wrote: > > > As Benjamin asked, could you please flesh out what > > "blah-blah-blah-dot-com" means - what, exactly, was the site your > > firewall warned you about? > > Forgive me, but I'm an old man with very poor vision.

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-05 Thread Donald Stufft
ensurepip uses —no-index so it shouldn’t be hitting the network at all. On Jan 5, 2014, at 11:06 PM, R. David Murray wrote: > On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 19:32:15 -0800, Bob Hanson wrote: >> On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 21:09:53 -0600, Tim Peters wrote: >>> So it's just Akamai caching content. Common as mud. C

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-05 Thread R. David Murray
On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 19:32:15 -0800, Bob Hanson wrote: > On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 21:09:53 -0600, Tim Peters wrote: > > So it's just Akamai caching content. Common as mud. Can't say > > specifically what was being cached, but it _could_ be that your ISP > > contracts with Akamai. > > Still not followi

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-05 Thread Bob Hanson
On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 21:09:53 -0600, Tim Peters wrote: > [Bob Hanson] > > Forgive me, but I'm an old man with very poor vision. Using my > > magnifying glass, I see it is two very long URLs ending with > > something like after the blah-blah: < ... akametechnology.com> > > > > More precisely, these t

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-05 Thread Tim Peters
[Bob Hanson] > Forgive me, but I'm an old man with very poor vision. Using my > magnifying glass, I see it is two very long URLs ending with > something like after the blah-blah: < ... akametechnology.com> > > More precisely, these two IP addresses: > 23.59.190.113:80 > 23.59.190.106:80 So

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-05 Thread Bob Hanson
On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 20:09:23 -0600, Tim Peters wrote: > As Benjamin asked, could you please flesh out what > "blah-blah-blah-dot-com" means - what, exactly, was the site your > firewall warned you about? Forgive me, but I'm an old man with very poor vision. Using my magnifying glass, I see it is

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-05 Thread Ethan Furman
On 01/05/2014 06:02 PM, Bob Hanson wrote: I'm presuming, still, that it is something to do with the "ensure that pip is present on Windows" thing? Perhaps you could help us out by telling us what site was trying to be accessed? -- ~Ethan~ ___ Python

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-05 Thread Tim Peters
[Bob Hanson] > ... > Didn't think this likely, but I have now quintuple-checked > everything again. Everything says I have the real McCoy > msiexec.exe in its proper location -- just upgraded another app > which used MSI installers and it went as per normal. That sounds most likely to me too ;-)

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-05 Thread Bob Hanson
[Bob Hanson] > > This is the first time I ever installed a version of Python which > > caused something called "MSIEXEC.EXE" [Tim Peters] > msiexec.exe is not part of the Python download.. msiexec.exe is part > of the Windows operating system, and is precisely the program that > installs .msi fil

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-05 Thread Tim Peters
[Benjamin Peterson] > ... > This is the first time I ever installed a version of Python which > caused something called "MSIEXEC.EXE" msiexec.exe is not part of the Python download.. msiexec.exe is part of the Windows operating system, and is precisely the program that installs .msi files (which

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-05 Thread Benjamin Peterson
-- Regards, Benjamin On Sun, Jan 5, 2014, at 04:19 PM, Bob Hanson wrote: > On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 13:20:50 -0800, Larry Hastings wrote: > > > On behalf of the Python development team, I'm pleased to announce > > the second beta release of Python 3.4. > > Thanks, Larry and all the devs, your hard

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-05 Thread Bob Hanson
On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 13:20:50 -0800, Larry Hastings wrote: > On behalf of the Python development team, I'm pleased to announce > the second beta release of Python 3.4. Thanks, Larry and all the devs, your hard work is appreciated. However, why does this new version look like adware or other malwa

[Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.4.0b2

2014-01-05 Thread Larry Hastings
On behalf of the Python development team, I'm pleased to announce the second beta release of Python 3.4. This is a preview release, and its use is not recommended for production settings. Python 3.4 includes a range of improvements of the 3.x series, including hundreds of small improvements and