Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0 alpha 3

2012-05-07 Thread Georg Brandl
On 05/07/2012 11:00 AM, Mark Shannon wrote: > Martin v. Löwis wrote: >>> The What's New document also starts with a long list of PEPs. >>> This seems to be the standard format as What's New for 3.2 follows the >>> same layout. >>> >>> Perhaps adding an overview or highlights at the start would be a

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0 alpha 3

2012-05-07 Thread Nick Coghlan
Any such summary prose will be written by the What's New author (Raymond Hettinger for the 3.x series). Such text definitely *won't* be written until after feature freeze (which occurs with the first beta, currently planned for late June). Until that time, the draft What's New is primarily rough n

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0 alpha 3

2012-05-07 Thread Mark Shannon
Martin v. Löwis wrote: The What's New document also starts with a long list of PEPs. This seems to be the standard format as What's New for 3.2 follows the same layout. Perhaps adding an overview or highlights at the start would be a good idea. You seem to assume that Python users are not able

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0 alpha 3

2012-05-07 Thread Martin v. Löwis
The What's New document also starts with a long list of PEPs. This seems to be the standard format as What's New for 3.2 follows the same layout. Perhaps adding an overview or highlights at the start would be a good idea. You seem to assume that Python users are not able to grasp long itemized

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0 alpha 3

2012-05-02 Thread Mark Shannon
Nick Coghlan wrote: On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Mark Shannon wrote: Or maybe three parts? New features. Behavioural changes (i.e. bug fixes) Performance enhancements The release PEPs are mainly there for *our* benefit, not end users. For end users, it's the What's New document that matte

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0 alpha 3

2012-05-02 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Mark Shannon wrote: > Or maybe three parts? > New features. > Behavioural changes (i.e. bug fixes) > Performance enhancements The release PEPs are mainly there for *our* benefit, not end users. For end users, it's the What's New document that matters. For performa

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0 alpha 3

2012-05-02 Thread Mark Shannon
Georg Brandl wrote: On behalf of the Python development team, I'm happy to announce the third alpha release of Python 3.3.0. This is a preview release, and its use is not recommended in production settings. Python 3.3 includes a range of improvements of the 3.x series, as well as easier porting

[Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0 alpha 3

2012-05-01 Thread Georg Brandl
On behalf of the Python development team, I'm happy to announce the third alpha release of Python 3.3.0. This is a preview release, and its use is not recommended in production settings. Python 3.3 includes a range of improvements of the 3.x series, as well as easier porting between 2.x and 3.x.