Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] The release process

2008-03-03 Thread skip
Barry> True, but it's just more moving parts to break, especially when I Barry> don't really feel a u/i buys you much[*]. Barry> [*] Skip knows me as a diehard XEmacser so that statement can Barry> pretty much define my standard answer to all such questions. :) So if we put toget

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] The release process

2008-03-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 1, 2008, at 10:29 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > The fact that Barry found Anthony's process unusable is IMO not a > reflection on either Barry or Anthony's code. Release processes seem > to be highly personal, even within the same project.

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] The release process

2008-03-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 1, 2008, at 7:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Barry> The dependency on gtk is unnecessary and means it can > effectively >Barry> only be run on Linux. Specifically it means I can't do > releases >Barry> on OS X. I don't see

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] The release process

2008-03-01 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Christian Heimes writes: > It may sound like a dumb question by why do we need a release tool > at all? I was involved in the release process of 3.0a2. Almost > every step of the build process required human interaction. Interaction, yes, but often it can be reduced to "Abort, retry, fail?"

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] The release process

2008-03-01 Thread skip
Barry> The dependency on gtk is unnecessary and means it can effectively Barry> only be run on Linux. Specifically it means I can't do releases Barry> on OS X. I don't see much benefit in having a gui tool for doing Barry> releases. Gtk and Glade are available through MacPorts,

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] The release process

2008-03-01 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> It may sound like a dumb question by why do we need a release tool at > all? I was involved in the release process of 3.0a2. Almost every step > of the build process required human interaction. I don't want to > diminish the effort that was put into welease though. But maybe (!) the > same time

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] The release process

2008-03-01 Thread Christian Heimes
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > I guess every release manager is free to come up with his own set of > tools, but I feel you've given up too quickly (or started too late - > perhaps a test release run a few days before the release would have > helped). > > In any case, I'm willing to help with welease, b

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] The release process

2008-03-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 1, 2008, at 5:37 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: >> With apologies to Anthony, welease is crack. I made pretty good >> progress once I ditched it and starting doing things manually. >> Between now and the next alpha I intend to work on a com

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] The release process

2008-03-01 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> With apologies to Anthony, welease is crack. I made pretty good > progress once I ditched it and starting doing things manually. > Between now and the next alpha I intend to work on a command line > script to help with releases. If you're interested in helping, let me > know. I guess