In a message of Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:46:03 +0100, Armin Rigo writes:
>Hi all,
>
>On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 8:13 PM, Laura Creighton wrote:
>> Python 3.5 is not supported on windows XP. Upgrade your OS or
>> stick with 3.4
>
>Maybe this information should be written down s
In a message of Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:03:41 -0800, Steve Dower writes:
>On 07Dec2015 1324, Steve Dower wrote:
>> On 07Dec2015 1250, Laura Creighton wrote:
>>> As webmaster, I am dealing with 3 unhappy would-be python users who have
>>> windows 10.
>>>
>
>
&
In a message of Mon, 07 Dec 2015 21:58:16 +0100, "M.-A. Lemburg" writes:
>On 07.12.2015 21:50, Laura Creighton wrote:
>> As webmaster, I am dealing with 3 unhappy would-be python users who have
>> windows 10.
>>
>> Right now their first problem is that when t
In a message of Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:24:57 -0800, Steve Dower writes:
>On 07Dec2015 1250, Laura Creighton wrote:
>> As webmaster, I am dealing with 3 unhappy would-be python users who have
>> windows 10.
>>
>> Right now their first problem is that when they click on th
As webmaster, I am dealing with 3 unhappy would-be python users who have
windows 10.
Right now their first problem is that when they click on the big
yellow button here: https://www.python.org/downloads/
instead of getting a download of 3.5.1 they get a redirect to
https://www.python.org/download
So how do we get search to work so that people in the Language
Reference who type in 'List Comprehension' get a hit?
Laura
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What I would like is if it were a lot easier for a person who just
saw a list comprehension for the very first time, and was told what it
is, to have a much, much easier time finding it in the Reference Manual.
Would a section on comprehensions in general, defining what a comprehension
is be appro
In a message of Thu, 03 Dec 2015 15:09:12 +, Random832 writes:
>> 6.2.4 Constructing lists, sets and dictionaries -- explicitly or through
>> the use of comprehensions
>
>I don't like the idea of calling it "explicit construction".
>Explicit construction to me means the actual use of a ca
In a message of Thu, 03 Dec 2015 13:37:17 +, Paul Moore writes:
>On 3 December 2015 at 12:51, Laura Creighton wrote:
>> Intentional or Oversight?
>
>Hard to find :-)
>
>https://docs.python.org/3/reference/expressions.html#displays-for-lists-sets-and-dictionaries
>
&g
Intentional or Oversight?
Laura
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In a message of Tue, 01 Dec 2015 10:13:10 -0600, Ryan Gonzalez writes:
>Did you get the x86-64 version or x86? If you had gotten the former, it would
>lead to that error.
No, his problem is his windows XP.
Python 3.5 is not supported on windows XP. Upgrade your OS or
stick with 3.4
My mailer just barfed trying to read that summary.
The problem is that the mail comes out with the encoding:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
but then wants to print 'http://bugs.python.org/issue25709 opened
by Ãrpád Kósa'
Can we change the encoding to utf-8 ?
Laura
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In a message of Wed, 25 Nov 2015 15:39:54 -0500, "R. David Murray" writes:
>I think we should include the environment variable support in CPython
>and be done with it (nuke the PEP otherwise). Which is what I've
>thought from the beginning :)
>
>--David
I like this idea too.
Laura
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In a message of Tue, 24 Nov 2015 14:05:53 +, Paul Moore writes:
>Simply adding "people who have no control over their broken
>infrastructure" with a note that this PEP helps them, would be
>sufficient here (and actually helps the case for the PEP, so why not?
>;-))
But does it help them? Or d
In a message of Sun, 15 Nov 2015 12:56:18 +, Paul Moore writes:
>On 15 November 2015 at 07:23, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>> I don't see any good reason for allowing non-ASCII-compatible
>> encodings in the reference CPython interpreter.
>
>>From PEP 263:
>
> Any encoding which allows pr
In a message of Sun, 01 Nov 2015 10:51:05 -0800, Larry Hastings writes:
>
>
>On 11/01/2015 09:10 AM, Laura Creighton wrote:
>> Put that on python.org as soon as possible.
>> even if you need to bump the python 3.5 numbering.
>> you get 3.5.1 for this, and this alone
In a message of Sun, 01 Nov 2015 08:23:48 -0800, Steve Dower writes:
>"The initial rush of bug reports I see has not gone down. It's been in steady
>increase."
>
>To clarify, I meant unique bugs. When my job is to fix them, more reports of
>the same bug are not important to me, especially once t
In a message of Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:52:40 -0800, Steve Dower writes:
>The installer and the contained contents are currently tied together, making
>it fairly difficult to mix and match versions.
>
>When 3.5.1 happens is up to Larry, but I'm feeling like the initial rush of
>bug reports has died d
In a message of Sun, 01 Nov 2015 08:29:32 +0200, Serhiy Storchaka writes:
>I'm unable to submit any file to any issue, neither via web-form nor via
>e-mail. Checked with different browsers from different computers.
>Meta-tracker doesn't work too.
>
>http://psf.upfronthosting.co.za/roundup/meta/is
In a message of Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:50:30 -0500, Ryan Gonzalez writes:
>Why not just check the path of the imported modules and compare it with the
>Python library directory?
My friend Åsa who is 12 years old suggested exactly this at the club. If this
works then I will be certain to mention thi
In a message of Thu, 29 Oct 2015 13:26:08 -0700, Mark Roseman writes:
>Laura, I think what you want should actually be more-or-less doable in IDLE.
>
>The main routine that starts IDLE should be able to detect if it starts
>correctly (something unlikely to happen if a significant stdlib module is
In a message of Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:30:09 +, Paul Moore writes:
>On 29 October 2015 at 18:45, Donald Stufft wrote:
>> So I don=E2=80=99t think it=E2=80=99s true that people don=E2=80=99t shad=
>> ow the standard library, they just have various ways to do it that have s=
>> everal gotchas and r
In a message of Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:13:08 +, Paul Moore writes:
>> I am actually sick of the 'consenting adults' argument.
>> I am dealing with '11 year old children trying to write their
>> first, third and tenth python programs'. For the life of me
>> I cannot see how convenience for the sor
In a message of Thu, 29 Oct 2015 18:27:59 +, Paul Moore writes:
>The idle issues seem to me to demonstrate that shadowing the stdlib is
>a bad idea. Of course, consenting adults, and if you override you're
>responsible for correctly replacing the functionality, and all that,
>but honestly, I do
see the following:
lac@smartwheels:~/junk$ echo "print ('hello there')" >string.py
lac@smartwheels:~/junk$ idle-python3.5
hello there
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
File "/usr/lib/python3.5/idlelib/run.py", line 10, in
from idlelib import CallTips
File "/usr/lib
All these overloads makes the code hard to read.
The whole idea of 'i have to know which decorator
got called before the other one' is a smell that
you have too many decorators.
This whole idea reeks 'i can be very, very clever here'.
Laura
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In a message of Wed, 14 Oct 2015 23:49:33 +0100, Oscar Benjamin writes:
>I'm sure the bokeh developers will be aware of the different ways that
>their library is used (at this level). If the input spec is "sequence of
>coercible to float" then I agree that they should use type annotations to
>match
I forgot something.
In a message of Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:21:30 -, Oscar Benjamin writes:
>The point of static type checking is to detect precisely these kinds of
>errors.
Yes, but what I expect the type annotations to be used for, especially
in the SciPy world, is to make things easier for N
In a message of Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:21:30 -, Oscar Benjamin writes:
>Generally if it's possible to interchange floats and decimals in your code
>then there's probably no need for decimals in the first place.
Yes, but, at least around here the common case is that you already
_have_ a pile of
In a message of Wed, 14 Oct 2015 08:38:43 -0700, Guido van Rossum writes:
>Perhaps you could solve this with type variables. Here's a little
>demonstration program:
>```
>from decimal import Decimal
>from typing import TypeVar
>F = TypeVar('F', float, Decimal)
>def add(a: F, b: F) -> F:
>return
In a message of Wed, 14 Oct 2015 11:44:40 +0200, "M.-A. Lemburg" writes:
>I can only underline this. Conversion to decimals or fractions should
>not be implicit. People needing these types will know when they need
>them and apply the required explicit conversions to fit their use case.
>
>E.g. in
In a message of Tue, 13 Oct 2015 08:38:07 -0700, Raymond Hettinger writes:
>
>
>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 4:21 AM, Laura Creighton wrote:
>>
>> Any chance of adding Decimal to the list of things that are also
>> acceptable for things annotated float?
>
>>From
Any chance of adding Decimal to the list of things that are also
acceptable for things annotated float?
Laura
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In a message of Wed, 16 Sep 2015 16:56:54 -, Brett Cannon writes:
>I don't see any issue opened about Windows 7 installation issues, so if
>someone who has had the issue can thus can help Steve diagnose the problem
>that would be great (Steve is also currently on vacation so having this all
>in
webmaster has already heard from 4 people who cannot install it.
I sent them to the bug tracker or to python-list but they seem
not to have gone either place. Is there some guide I should be
sending them to, 'how to debug installation problems'?
Laura
In a message of Sat, 12 Sep 2015 20:49:12 -0400, Terry Reedy writes:
>and, if we are stuck with <-intransitivity, what do we do? If
>back-compatibility allowed, I might suggest defining 'lt' or 'less'
>rather than '__lt__' so that sort and bisect don't work with DateTimes.
>Then document that th
In a message of Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:44:20 +, Paul Moore writes:
>On 24 February 2015 at 16:30, Brett Cannon wrote:
>> Tell people to use pip. Having ensurepip in Python 2.7 and 3.4 makes it as
>> official as anything will be as the recommended tool to install projects.
>> Otherwise easy_instal
Hello all,
I wonder what the status of easy_install is. I keep finding people
who needed to install something 'path.py' is the latest, who needed to
use pip, and couldn't get easy_install to work. Should we tell people
that easy_install is deprecated, or ask them to file bugs when
they could not
webmaster just got mail from a novice who is trying to learn Python in
an introductory class. She got a "The version of Tcl/Tk (8.5.7) in
use may be unstable" message.
I think that the download page should have a link.
If you get
download and install . Any reason we cannot do that?
Laura
This just in from pypy-dev. I am reposting it here because I
am fairly certain that nobody on the pypy-dev mailing list
uses the multibytecodex, but there has got to be at least one
person here who does.
Please reply to the pypy-dev article, not here, or mail to pypy-...@python.org
if you are no
Politely ask them to add it.
(just my suggrestion).
Laura
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I think that if you add this, people will start relying on it.
Laura
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In a message of Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:56:32 EDT, Barry Warsaw writes:
>The Deriving section of the PEP is not the most important part of it, and
> is
>not making specific recommendations. If it's not clear that it's only
>providing examples, or it's distracting, then maybe it's better off being
>re
In a message of Sat, 02 Apr 2011 12:56:13 CDT, s...@pobox.com writes:
>
>Laura> Sphinx lets you embed graphviz.
>Laura> http://sphinx.pocoo.org/ext/graphviz.html?highlight=image
>
>Cool, thanks. I'm going to try to reproduce Nick's setup as he described
>it. That would certainly be a whol
In a message of Sat, 02 Apr 2011 10:36:01 CDT, s...@pobox.com writes:
>>> =A0 =A0Antoine> Take a look at:
>>> =A0 =A0Antoine> http://docs.python.org/devguide/committing.html
>>> =
>
>>> What form should directed graphs be in for inclusion?
>
>anatoly> Pictures.
>
>anatoly> B
In a message of Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:23:25 BST, Michael Foord writes:
>Hey all,
>
>Not sure how real the security risk is here:
>
> http://blog.omega-prime.co.uk/?p=107
>
>Basically he is saying that if you store a list of blacklisted files
>with names encoded in big-5 (or some other non-utf8
In a message of Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:46:27 +1100, Ben Finney writes:
> The audience of the proposed forum (AFAICT) is people who want to learn
> enough to contribute to the Python core. So, no, they're different
> roles.
The other side of the proposed forum is people who want to teach such
people.
In a message of Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:14:02 -0400, Jesse Noller writes:
>Ben,
>
>In principle I agree with you - I would like open archives for the
>specific reasons you cite, but I value the ability for people who may
>not be comfortable with coming out and openly discussing things on a
>list if the
For those of you not at the Language Summit at PyCON the day before yesterday,
there was talk of identifying non-portable behaviour, such as relying on
CPython's reference counting garbage collector to close files for you as
soon as they become unreachable. And then warning about them.
We have a
In a message of Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:41:50 +1000, Nick Coghlan writes:
>Ian Bicking wrote:
>> Anyway, another even more expedient option would be setting up a
>> separate bug tracker (something simpler to submit to than SF) and
>> putting a link on the bottom of every page, maybe like:
>> http://
Whenever people have demanded that I write documentation in html
I have always done this:
all my documentation, as output from a text editor.
All subsequent formatting to be done by somebody else who doesn't
find dealing with html as excruciatingly painful as I do.
I suspect there are lots of
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