Re: [Python-Dev] "python.exe is not a valid Win32 app"

2015-12-15 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:46:03 +0100, Armin Rigo writes: >Hi all, > >On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 8:13 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: >> Python 3.5 is not supported on windows XP. Upgrade your OS or >> stick with 3.4 > >Maybe this information should be written down s

Re: [Python-Dev] Do windows 10 users, like windows 7 users need to install a SP before installing Python will work?

2015-12-09 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:03:41 -0800, Steve Dower writes: >On 07Dec2015 1324, Steve Dower wrote: >> On 07Dec2015 1250, Laura Creighton wrote: >>> As webmaster, I am dealing with 3 unhappy would-be python users who have >>> windows 10. >>> > > &

Re: [Python-Dev] Do windows 10 users, like windows 7 users need to install a SP before installing Python will work?

2015-12-07 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Mon, 07 Dec 2015 21:58:16 +0100, "M.-A. Lemburg" writes: >On 07.12.2015 21:50, Laura Creighton wrote: >> As webmaster, I am dealing with 3 unhappy would-be python users who have >> windows 10. >> >> Right now their first problem is that when t

Re: [Python-Dev] Do windows 10 users, like windows 7 users need to install a SP before installing Python will work?

2015-12-07 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:24:57 -0800, Steve Dower writes: >On 07Dec2015 1250, Laura Creighton wrote: >> As webmaster, I am dealing with 3 unhappy would-be python users who have >> windows 10. >> >> Right now their first problem is that when they click on th

[Python-Dev] Do windows 10 users, like windows 7 users need to install a SP before installing Python will work?

2015-12-07 Thread Laura Creighton
/downloads/windows/ I've tried them on both the Download Windows x86 web-based installer and Download Windows x86-64 web-based installer but still no go, they get the Modify/Repair/Uninstall screen like: http://www2.openend.se/~lac/5796.2.png I do not know how to help them now.

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Reference has no mention of list comÃprehensions

2015-12-03 Thread Laura Creighton
So how do we get search to work so that people in the Language Reference who type in 'List Comprehension' get a hit? Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscri

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Reference has no mention of list comÃprehensions

2015-12-03 Thread Laura Creighton
appropriate? Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Reference has no mention of list comÃprehensions

2015-12-03 Thread Laura Creighton
tion to me means the actual use of a call to the >constructor function. Would 6.2.4 Creating lists, sets and dictionaries -- explicitly or through the use of comprehensions get rid of that objection? Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Reference has no mention of list comÃprehensions

2015-12-03 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Thu, 03 Dec 2015 13:37:17 +, Paul Moore writes: >On 3 December 2015 at 12:51, Laura Creighton wrote: >> Intentional or Oversight? > >Hard to find :-) > >https://docs.python.org/3/reference/expressions.html#displays-for-lists-sets-and-dictionaries > &g

Python Language Reference has no mention of list com�prehensions

2015-12-03 Thread Laura Creighton
Intentional or Oversight? Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] "python.exe is not a valid Win32 app"

2015-12-01 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Tue, 01 Dec 2015 10:13:10 -0600, Ryan Gonzalez writes: >Did you get the x86-64 version or x86? If you had gotten the former, it would >lead to that error. No, his problem is his windows XP. Python 3.5 is not supported on windows XP. Upgrade your OS or stick with 3.4

[Python-Dev] ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2015-11-20 - 2015-11-27)

2015-11-27 Thread Laura Creighton
My mailer just barfed trying to read that summary. The problem is that the mail comes out with the encoding: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" but then wants to print 'http://bugs.python.org/issue25709 opened by Árpád Kósa' Can we change the encodi

Re: [Python-Dev] Request for pronouncement on PEP 493 (HTTPS verification backport guidance)

2015-11-25 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Wed, 25 Nov 2015 15:39:54 -0500, "R. David Murray" writes: >I think we should include the environment variable support in CPython >and be done with it (nuke the PEP otherwise). Which is what I've >thought from the beginning :) > >--David

Re: [Python-Dev] Request for pronouncement on PEP 493 (HTTPS verification backport guidance)

2015-11-24 Thread Laura Creighton
does it help them? Or does it increase the power of those who hand out certificates and who are intensely security conscious over those who would like to get some work done this afternoon? Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://m

Re: [Python-Dev] Support of UTF-16 and UTF-32 source encodings

2015-11-15 Thread Laura Creighton
f 'when in Japan we want such things we want to so brutally do so much more, so keep the reference implementation simple, and don't try to help us with this seems-like-a-good-idea-but-isnt-in-practice' ideas like this one, or Laura __

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3.5.1 plans

2015-11-01 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Sun, 01 Nov 2015 10:51:05 -0800, Larry Hastings writes: > > >On 11/01/2015 09:10 AM, Laura Creighton wrote: >> Put that on python.org as soon as possible. >> even if you need to bump the python 3.5 numbering. >> you get 3.5.1 for this, and this alone

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3.5.1 plans

2015-11-01 Thread Laura Creighton
if you need to bump the python 3.5 numbering. you get 3.5.1 for this, and this alone and everybody else gets to wait for 3.5.2 and when Larry feels this is a good idea. Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mai

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3.5.1 plans

2015-11-01 Thread Laura Creighton
r a whole lot about 3.5 not working. But from my end -- sooner python.org serves up the improved installer, the better. Even if you made a release-candidate-right-now to do nothing but that. Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org htt

Re: [Python-Dev] Unable to submit a patch to the tracker

2015-11-01 Thread Laura Creighton
osting.co.za/roundup/meta/issue575 It's working for me. Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] If you shadow a module in the standard library that IDLE depends on, bad things happen

2015-10-29 Thread Laura Creighton
ention this to her. I said that I would ask 'how hard is this?' Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] If you shadow a module in the standard library that IDLE depends on, bad things happen

2015-10-29 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Thu, 29 Oct 2015 13:26:08 -0700, Mark Roseman writes: >Laura, I think what you want should actually be more-or-less doable in IDLE. > >The main routine that starts IDLE should be able to detect if it starts >correctly (something unlikely to happen if a significant stdl

Re: [Python-Dev] If you shadow a module in the standard library that IDLE depends on, bad things happen

2015-10-29 Thread Laura Creighton
t; everal gotchas and require people to generally hack around the limitation= >> .=C2=A0 > >(Your mailer or mine seems to have gone weird with encoding...) Dstuffts. I see this problem too Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.or

Re: [Python-Dev] If you shadow a module in the standard library that IDLE depends on, bad things happen

2015-10-29 Thread Laura Creighton
n the warning again, as a problem to look for. It will bugger up doctests for people who legitimately shadow the stdlib and now get a new warning. Anybody else be seriously inconvenienced if we do this? I cannot think of any, but then legitimately shadowing the stdlib in not on the list of thing

Re: [Python-Dev] If you shadow a module in the standard library that IDLE depends on, bad things happen

2015-10-29 Thread Laura Creighton
thon despite natural language barriers and the fact that their peers and parents think they are nuts to want to do so. (a grumpy comment from a teacher at a Swedish 'coding for kids' club. Disregard if too grumpy.) Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing l

[Python-Dev] If you shadow a module in the standard library that IDLE depends on, bad things happen

2015-10-29 Thread Laura Creighton
wing in general, instead of sending people on wild goose chases over their firewalls. Would this be hard to do? Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 484 -- proposal to allow @overload in non-stub files

2015-10-25 Thread Laura Creighton
All these overloads makes the code hard to read. The whole idea of 'i have to know which decorator got called before the other one' is a smell that you have too many decorators. This whole idea reeks 'i can be very, very clever here'. Laura __

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 0484 - the Numeric Tower

2015-10-14 Thread Laura Creighton
is matter. I go to bed now, pondering the idea that for me, internally, a new way to do type annotation 'to-x-or-is-coercible-to-x' seems a decent-enough idea. Seems a betrayal of earlier principles. Perhaps when I wake up I will feel differently. Off to dream

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 0484 - the Numeric Tower

2015-10-14 Thread Laura Creighton
to confront the fact poorly written code can not be made fly until it is rewritten. Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 0484 - the Numeric Tower

2015-10-14 Thread Laura Creighton
t me in their type annotations, I can just make a pull request, send it back with some corrected annotations and the note 'remember me!' :) >Oscar Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/lis

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 0484 - the Numeric Tower

2015-10-14 Thread Laura Creighton
y >work. > >-- >--Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido) This looks good to me. I wonder if there is anything we can do, documentation and PEP wise to encourage people who write code to use it, rather than just using float? Laura ___ Python-

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 0484 - the Numeric Tower

2015-10-14 Thread Laura Creighton
he SciPy stack so they can use pandas to analyse the data, and matplotlib to graph it, and bokeh to turn the results into a all-singing and dancing interactive graph. Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/lis

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 0484 - the Numeric Tower

2015-10-13 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Tue, 13 Oct 2015 08:38:07 -0700, Raymond Hettinger writes: > > >> On Oct 13, 2015, at 4:21 AM, Laura Creighton wrote: >> >> Any chance of adding Decimal to the list of things that are also >> acceptable for things annotated float? > >>From

[Python-Dev] PEP 0484 - the Numeric Tower

2015-10-13 Thread Laura Creighton
Any chance of adding Decimal to the list of things that are also acceptable for things annotated float? Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] congrats on 3.5! Alas, windows 7 users are having problems installing it

2015-09-16 Thread Laura Creighton
this on the net and following the sequence of things to do called 'Method 1'in http://wind8apps.com/error-0x80240017-windows/ fixed things for them. Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pytho

[Python-Dev] congrats on 3.5! Alas, windows 7 users are having problems installing it

2015-09-13 Thread Laura Creighton
webmaster has already heard from 4 people who cannot install it. I sent them to the bug tracker or to python-list but they seem not to have gone either place. Is there some guide I should be sending them to, 'how to debug installation problems

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 495 Was: PEP 498: Literal String Interpolation is ready for pronouncement

2015-09-13 Thread Laura Creighton
x27;t work with DateTimes. >Then document that the function is not transitive. I think it would be better to document what you are supposed to do if you have a list of DateTimes and want to sort them, as a way to get a list of times sorted from the earliest to the latest. Laura

Re: [Python-Dev] easy_install ?

2015-02-24 Thread Laura Creighton
at made easy_install better. Ok. will go back to my personal integrity which matches what python-dev recommends. Thank you for answering. Laura (answering questions in python-list and as webmaster) ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

[Python-Dev] easy_install ?

2015-02-24 Thread Laura Creighton
when they could not get it to work, or ... Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

[Python-Dev] installing python 2.7.9 on a Mac

2015-02-06 Thread Laura Creighton
webmaster just got mail from a novice who is trying to learn Python in an introductory class. She got a "The version of Tcl/Tk (8.5.7) in use may be unstable" message. I think that the download page should have a link. If you get download and install . Any reason we cannot do th

[Python-Dev] multibytecodex

2011-05-25 Thread Laura Creighton
not on the pypy-dev mailing list (but have delivery turned off as many of you do.) Thank you, Laura --- Forwarded Message From: Armin Rigo Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 21:39:35 +0200 To: pypy-...@python.org Subject: [pypy-dev] multibytecodec: missing features Hi all, Here are the missing

Re: [Python-Dev] how do you find out what version of Python a PEP landed in?

2011-05-18 Thread Laura Creighton
Politely ask them to add it. (just my suggrestion). Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] python and super

2011-04-14 Thread Laura Creighton
I think that if you add this, people will start relying on it. Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 396, Module Version Numbers

2011-04-12 Thread Laura Creighton
maybe it's better off being >removed, cut down or rewritten. To me, at any rate, it read as a pretty important part. But the version I just read from http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0396/ still has the re in it as well. Laura ___ Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] Decisions about workflow

2011-04-02 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Sat, 02 Apr 2011 12:56:13 CDT, s...@pobox.com writes: > > Laura> Sphinx lets you embed graphviz. >Laura> http://sphinx.pocoo.org/ext/graphviz.html?highlight=image > >Cool, thanks. I'm going to try to reproduce Nick's setup as he described

[Python-Dev] not possible to install python 3.2

2011-04-02 Thread Laura
ot;sys:1: ResourceWarning: unclosed file <_io.TextIOWrapper name='/dev/null' mode='a' encoding='ANSI_X3.4-1968'> make: *** [test] Error 1" The Result? When I type python on Linux, i get the older version 2.7.1 instead of the version that i just

Re: [Python-Dev] Decisions about workflow

2011-04-02 Thread Laura Creighton
Some so >rt >of graph notation (like Graphviz)? MoinMoin .draw notation? Does ReST >support any sort of embedded images or diagrams? > >Skip Sphinx lets you embed graphviz. http://sphinx.pocoo.org/ext/graphviz.html?highlight=image Laura ___

Re: [Python-Dev] Security implications of pep 383

2011-03-29 Thread Laura Creighton
xcept in that you might have unrealistic expectations? Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Core Mentorship program

2011-03-25 Thread Laura Creighton
ch such people. Many of them (and no doubt many of the learners) don't read python-list due to its high volume. Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Core Mentorship program

2011-03-25 Thread Laura Creighton
ing from it who would not have joined an open group. Without some sort of metric, I will always worry that it was done 'in case there might be people like that out there' or 'to test the theory that the reason we don't have enough python-dev contributers is because pyt

[Python-Dev] About raising NotPortableWarning for CPython specific code

2011-03-12 Thread Laura Creighton
inclination is to declare code that relies on this as broken, rather than patch every wretched container type in PyPy. Can this become blessed as a 'you shouldn't have done this'? Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] [Doc-SIG] that library reference, again

2005-12-31 Thread Laura Creighton
and 'bugs' and the sourceforge bug tracker, which isn't even particularly good at tracking bugs is particularly ill-suited for the collaborative sharing of documents. Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] [Doc-SIG] status of development documentation

2005-12-22 Thread Laura Creighton
lots of people who have concluded that this is all the html that you really need. The question is, are you willing to put up with documentation like this from people? Laura ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/ma