Re: [Python-Dev] [ANN] VPython 0.1

2008-10-24 Thread J. Sievers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On 23 Oct, 10:42 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>Guido van Rossum wrote: >>>there already is something else called VPython >> >>Perhaps it could be called Fython (Python with a Forth-like VM) >>or Thython (threaded-code Python). > > I feel like I've missed something impo

Re: [Python-Dev] [ANN] VPython 0.1

2008-10-24 Thread J. Sievers
Greg Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Daniel Stutzbach wrote: > >> With threaded code, every handler ends with its own dispatcher, so >> the processor can make fine-grained predictions. > > I'm still wondering whether all this stuff makes a > noticeable difference in real-life Python code, whic

Re: [Python-Dev] [ANN] VPython 0.1

2008-10-24 Thread J. Sievers
"Daniel Stutzbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [snip] >I searched around for information on how threaded code interacts with >branch prediction, and here's what I found. The short answer is that >threaded code significantly improves branch prediction. See ``Optimizing indirect branc

Re: [Python-Dev] [ANN] VPython 0.1

2008-10-24 Thread J. Sievers
"M.-A. Lemburg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [snip] > BTW: I hope you did not use pybench to get profiles of the opcodes. > That would most certainly result in good results for pybench, but > less good ones for general applications such as Django or Zope/Plone. Algorithm used for superinstruction

Re: [Python-Dev] [ANN] superinstructions (VPython 0.1)

2008-10-24 Thread J. Sievers
Antoine Pitrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > J. Sievers gmail.com> writes: >> >> A sequence of code such as LOAD_CONST LOAD_FAST BINARY_ADD will, in >> CPython, push some constant onto the stack, push some local onto the >> stack, then pop

Re: [Python-Dev] [ANN] VPython 0.1

2008-10-23 Thread J. Sievers
Hey, I hope you don't mind my replying in digest form. First off, I guess I should be a little clearer as to what VPthon is and what it does. VPython is essentially a set of patches for CPython (in touches only three files, diff -b is about 800 lines IIRC plus the switch statement in ceval.c's E

[Python-Dev] [ANN] VPython 0.1

2008-10-22 Thread J. Sievers
Hi, I implemented a variant of the CPython VM on top of Gforth's Vmgen; this made it fairly straightforward to add direct threaded code and superinstructions for the various permutations of LOAD_CONST, LOAD_FAST, and most of the two-argument VM instructions. Sources: http://svirfneblin.org/stuf