[Python-Dev] Re: Pattern Matching controversy: Don't read PEP 635, read DLS'20 paper instead

2020-11-28 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 12:10:39AM +0300, Paul Sokolovsky wrote: > And we don't speak about some obscure "innovative" idea. Const'ness > aka immutability is well-known and widely used feature in programming > languages. Constantness and immutability are not synonyms. Immutability refers to *obje

[Python-Dev] Re: Pattern Matching controversy: Don't read PEP 635, read DLS'20 paper instead

2020-11-28 Thread Paul Sokolovsky
Hello, On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 12:21:35 +1300 Greg Ewing wrote: [] > > please explain why you chose to proceed anyway (and apply > > workarounds), instead of first introducing the concept of constants > > to the language. (Given that amount of work to implement pattern > > matching is certainly an

[Python-Dev] Re: Ideas for improving the contribution experience

2020-11-28 Thread mikecmcleod
I was impressed by the good ideas put forward, however, some what not full solutions. My position: I have free time now and I want to contribute to open source/freeware. But I don’t have great software in depth experience, however, I’m willing to learn. I was think of contributing to Python but

[Python-Dev] Re: Distro packagers: PEP 615 and the tzdata dependency

2020-11-28 Thread Filipe Laíns
On Sat, 2020-11-28 at 12:13 -0800, Brett Cannon wrote: > So that's two people. If five people involved in the distribution of Python > speak up I will go ahead and create a category on discuss.python.org (people > can ask sooner, but my personal threshold here to do the work myself is 5 😄). Count

[Python-Dev] Re: Distro packagers: PEP 615 and the tzdata dependency

2020-11-28 Thread Paul Ganssle
Considering the people involved and the nature of the list, I suspect that adding a new @python.org mailing list would be better than discourse. In my experience, it's very difficult to just follow a single topic on the discourse, and most people complain that the e-mail integration is not great. F

[Python-Dev] Re: Distro packagers: PEP 615 and the tzdata dependency

2020-11-28 Thread Brett Cannon
So that's two people. If five people involved in the distribution of Python speak up I will go ahead and create a category on discuss.python.org (people can ask sooner, but my personal threshold here to do the work myself is 5 😄). On Wed., Nov. 25, 2020, 00:18 Petr Viktorin, wrote: > On 11/24/20