[Python-Dev] Re: Announcing the new Python triage team on GitHub

2019-08-22 Thread Kyle Stanley
> That was Brett's bot for backfilling the "awaiting ..." label to PRs created before we had any "awaiting .." label. A script was used to > automatically determine the stage of the PR and apply appropriate label. Ah, that makes sense. I wasn't aware that personal GitHub accounts were previously u

[Python-Dev] Re: Announcing the new Python triage team on GitHub

2019-08-22 Thread Mariatta
> > That was my previous impression, but then I saw that Brett applied it > manually in this older PR to check if the author was still active: > https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/117#issuecomment-367187316. That was Brett's bot for backfilling the "awaiting ..." label to PRs created before w

[Python-Dev] Re: Announcing the new Python triage team on GitHub

2019-08-22 Thread Kyle Stanley
Mariatta wrote: > It still requires earning trust from at least one core developer who will approve their request, which I don't actually believe is an easy > thing to do. Agreed, it may be a low bar in comparison to the 66% approval required for becoming a core developer, but it's definitely not

[Python-Dev] Re: Announcing the new Python triage team on GitHub

2019-08-22 Thread Mariatta
> > The capabilities of a triager mostly look good except for "closing PRs and > issues". This is a superpower that has traditionally been reserved for > more senior developers because it grants the ability to shut-down the work > of another aspiring contributor. Marking someone else's suggestion

[Python-Dev] Re: Announcing the new Python triage team on GitHub

2019-08-22 Thread Kyle Stanley
Kyle Stanley wrote: > as it has been awaiting changes since Feb 20, 2018 Clarification: The author addressed the suggested changes on Feb 19, 2017 but had made no response after Brett added the ``awaiting changes`` label. As a related question, would it be okay for triagers to manually add the "a

[Python-Dev] Re: Announcing the new Python triage team on GitHub

2019-08-22 Thread Kyle Stanley
Abhilash Raj wrote: > What I am coming from is that what one has permissions to do and what one > should do has been different. We caution people with permissions to use them > judiciously. >From my understanding, triagers should only close PRs or issues when they are entirely invalid (for non-sub

[Python-Dev] Re: Announcing the new Python triage team on GitHub

2019-08-22 Thread Brett Cannon
Abhilash Raj wrote: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, at 6:06 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > > Hi, > > Oh, I just wrote a similar email to python-committers, I didn't notice > > that Mariatta wrote to python-dev and python-committers. > > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-committ...@python.org/messa

[Python-Dev] Re: Announcing the new Python triage team on GitHub

2019-08-22 Thread Abhilash Raj
On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, at 6:06 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > Oh, I just wrote a similar email to python-committers, I didn't notice > that Mariatta wrote to python-dev and python-committers. > > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-committ...@python.org/message/53K5MJAKLRGY2F34ZCY

[Python-Dev] Re: Announcing the new Python triage team on GitHub

2019-08-22 Thread Giampaolo Rodola'
On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 22:17, Raymond Hettinger wrote: > Thanks for doing this. I hope it encourages more participation. > > The capabilities of a triager mostly look good except for "closing PRs and > issues". This is a superpower that has traditionally been reserved for > more senior develope

[Python-Dev] Re: Announcing the new Python triage team on GitHub

2019-08-22 Thread Paul Ganssle
I think it's fine for triagers to have the close permission, and there's actually a good reason to give it to them, which is that often the easiest way to trigger a new CI run is to close and re-open a PR. It will be very helpful for triagers to be able to do this to fix intermittent build problems

[Python-Dev] Re: Announcing the new Python triage team on GitHub

2019-08-22 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, Oh, I just wrote a similar email to python-committers, I didn't notice that Mariatta wrote to python-dev and python-committers. https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-committ...@python.org/message/53K5MJAKLRGY2F34ZCYGL3WPWSJ4C5M2/ My worry is more about closing pull requests. Le 2