Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 550 v3

2017-08-19 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 20 August 2017 at 10:21, Guido van Rossum wrote: > The way we came to "logical context" was via "logical thread (of control)", > which is distinct from OS thread. But I think we might need to search for > another term... Right. Framing it in pragmatic terms, the two entities that we're attempt

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 550 v3

2017-08-19 Thread Guido van Rossum
The way we came to "logical context" was via "logical thread (of control)", which is distinct from OS thread. But I think we might need to search for another term... On Aug 19, 2017 11:56 AM, "Ethan Furman" wrote: > On 08/19/2017 01:40 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > >> On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 16:33:27

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 550 v3

2017-08-19 Thread Ethan Furman
On 08/19/2017 01:40 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 16:33:27 -0400 Yury Selivanov wrote: There are a few open questions left, namely the terminology and design of ContextKey API. On the former topic, I'm quite happy with the latest version: Execution Context, Logical Context, an

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbot report, August 2017

2017-08-19 Thread Brett Cannon
Thanks for all of this, Victor! On Fri, Aug 18, 2017, 09:38 Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > Here is a quick report of what changed recently on buildbots. > > > == pythoninfo == > > I added a new "python3 -m test.pythoninfo" command which is now run on > Travis CI, AppVeyor and buildbots. > >

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 550 v3

2017-08-19 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sat, Aug 19, 2017, 01:43 Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 16:33:27 -0400 > Yury Selivanov wrote: > > > > There are a few open questions left, namely the terminology > > and design of ContextKey API. On the former topic, I'm quite > > happy with the latest version: Execution Contex

Re: [Python-Dev] __signature__ for PySide ready

2017-08-19 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 19 August 2017 at 18:38, Christian Tismer wrote: > On 19.08.17 09:37, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> Either way, the answer to Christian's original question is that "Yes, >> supporting __signature__ is also useful in Python 2.x", as even though >> the native inspect module doesn't support it, 3rd party

Re: [Python-Dev] __signature__ for PySide ready

2017-08-19 Thread Christian Tismer
Hi Brett, On 18.08.17 18:31, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 at 02:05 Christian Tismer > wrote: > ... > Is it a bad idea to support signatures in Python 2 as well? > Do I introduce a feature that should not exist in Python 2? > Or is it f

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 550 v3

2017-08-19 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 16:33:27 -0400 Yury Selivanov wrote: > > There are a few open questions left, namely the terminology > and design of ContextKey API. On the former topic, I'm quite > happy with the latest version: Execution Context, Logical > Context, and Context Key. I don't really like it.

Re: [Python-Dev] __signature__ for PySide ready

2017-08-19 Thread Christian Tismer
Hi Nick, On 19.08.17 09:37, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 19 August 2017 at 02:55, Jelle Zijlstra wrote: >> 2017-08-18 18:20 GMT+02:00 Yury Selivanov : >>> There's a backport of signature API to Python 2. Although last time I >>> checked it was fairly outdated. >>> >> I wrote a backport earlier this

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 550 v3

2017-08-19 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 19 August 2017 at 06:33, Yury Selivanov wrote: > Hi, > > This is a third iteration of the PEP. > > There was some really good feedback on python-ideas and > the discussion thread became hard to follow again, so I decided to > update the PEP only three days after I published the previous > versi

Re: [Python-Dev] __signature__ for PySide ready

2017-08-19 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 19 August 2017 at 02:55, Jelle Zijlstra wrote: > 2017-08-18 18:20 GMT+02:00 Yury Selivanov : >> There's a backport of signature API to Python 2. Although last time I >> checked it was fairly outdated. >> > I wrote a backport earlier this year: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/inspect2. Nice. Yur