Re: [Python-Dev] Python startup time

2017-07-23 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 23 July 2017 at 09:35, Steve Dower wrote: > Yes, I’m aware of that, which is why I don’t have any specific suggestions > off-hand. But given the differences in file systems between Windows and > other OSs, it wouldn’t surprise me if there were a more optimal approach for > NTFS to amortize call

Re: [Python-Dev] startup time repeated? why not daemon

2017-07-23 Thread Chris Jerdonek
On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:57 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > We already did that. See _bootlocale for example. (Maybe also > _collecctions_abc?) I was asking more in the context of recommended practices for third-party developers, as Nick mentioned earlier, because it's not a strategy I've ever seen

Re: [Python-Dev] Python startup time

2017-07-23 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sun, Jul 23, 2017, 10:52 Michel Desmoulin, wrote: > > > Le 23/07/2017 à 19:36, Brett Cannon a écrit : > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 23, 2017, 00:53 Michel Desmoulin, > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Optimizing startup time is incredibly valuable, > > > > I've b

Re: [Python-Dev] Python startup time

2017-07-23 Thread Michel Desmoulin
Le 23/07/2017 à 19:36, Brett Cannon a écrit : > > > On Sun, Jul 23, 2017, 00:53 Michel Desmoulin, > wrote: > > > > > Optimizing startup time is incredibly valuable, > > I've been reading that from the beginning of this thread but I've been > us

Re: [Python-Dev] Python startup time

2017-07-23 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sun, Jul 23, 2017, 00:53 Michel Desmoulin, wrote: > > > > Optimizing startup time is incredibly valuable, > > I've been reading that from the beginning of this thread but I've been > using python since the 2.4 and I never felt the burden of the startup time. > > I'm guessing a lot of people ar

Re: [Python-Dev] startup time repeated? why not daemon

2017-07-23 Thread Victor Stinner
We already did that. See _bootlocale for example. (Maybe also _collecctions_abc?) Victor Le 22 juil. 2017 07:20, "Chris Jerdonek" a écrit : > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 at 22:11 Chris Jerdonek > > wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 8:49 PM, N

Re: [Python-Dev] Python startup time

2017-07-23 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 16:35:31 -0700 Steve Dower wrote: > > Yes, I’m aware of that, which is why I don’t have any specific suggestions > off-hand. But given the differences in file systems between Windows and other > OSs, it wouldn’t surprise me if there were a more optimal approach for NTFS > t

Re: [Python-Dev] Python startup time

2017-07-23 Thread Michel Desmoulin
> Optimizing startup time is incredibly valuable, I've been reading that from the beginning of this thread but I've been using python since the 2.4 and I never felt the burden of the startup time. I'm guessing a lot of people are like me, they just don't express them self because "better start