Carl Meyer writes:
> > On 31 October 2011 16:08, Tres Seaver wrote:
> >> I would say this is a perfect "opportunity to delegate," in this case
> >> to the devotees of other cults^Wshells than bash.
>
> Good call - we'll stick with what we've got until such devotees
> show up :-)
That's fi
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 13:24, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> Removing dead code and bypassing redundant code are both reasonable bug
> fixes. The kind of change to be avoided is gratuitous replacement of older
> idioms with newer ones.
>
>
What Nick said as I was in the middle of typing when he sent this
Removing dead code and bypassing redundant code are both reasonable bug
fixes. The kind of change to be avoided is gratuitous replacement of older
idioms with newer ones.
--
Nick Coghlan (via Gmail on Android, so likely to be more terse than usual)
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On 10/31/2011 10:28 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
> On 31 October 2011 16:08, Tres Seaver wrote:
>> On 10/31/2011 11:50 AM, Carl Meyer wrote:
>>
>>> I have no problem including the basic posix/nt activate scripts if
>>> no one else is concerned about the adde
On 31 October 2011 18:36, Ned Deily wrote:
> In article
> ,
> Paul Moore wrote:
>> On 30 October 2011 18:04, Ned Deily wrote:
>> > Has anyone analyzed the current packages on PyPI to see how many provide
>> > binary distributions and in what format?
>>
>> A very quick and dirty check:
>>
>> dmg
In article
,
Paul Moore wrote:
> On 30 October 2011 18:04, Ned Deily wrote:
> > Has anyone analyzed the current packages on PyPI to see how many provide
> > binary distributions and in what format?
>
> A very quick and dirty check:
>
> dmg: 5
> rpm: 12
> msi: 23
> dumb: 132
> wininst: 364
> e
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:09:01 +0100
barry.warsaw wrote:
> http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/1de4d92cd6a4
> changeset: 73258:1de4d92cd6a4
> branch: 2.7
> parent: 73253:7ce3b719306e
> user:Barry Warsaw
> date:Mon Oct 31 14:08:15 2011 -0400
> summary:
> test_protocol_sslv
Hi Éric,
On 31/10/2011 19.19, Éric Araujo wrote:
Hi Ezio,
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/18bbfed9aafa
user:Ezio Melotti
summary:
Add a button to the code examples in the doc to show/hide the prompts and
output.
Looks cool! I hope this will stop our use of two or three different
Hi,
> http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/72de2ac8bb4f
> branch: 2.7
> user:Petri Lehtinen
> date:Sun Oct 30 13:55:02 2011 +0200
> summary:
> Avoid unnecessary recursive function calls (closes #10519)
> http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/0694ebb5db99
> branch: 2.7
> user:
Hi,
> http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/6f56e81da8f6
> user:Florent Xicluna
> summary:
> I should be someone
Without quotation marks, that sounded like a philosophical commit :)
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Hi Ezio,
> http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/18bbfed9aafa
> user:Ezio Melotti
> summary:
> Add a button to the code examples in the doc to show/hide the prompts and
> output.
Looks cool! I hope this will stop our use of two or three different
styles for Python code in the docs (doctes
Hi,
> I'd like to reopen the discussions on how the new packaging module
> will handle/support binary distributions in Python 3.3. The previous
> thread (see
> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2011-October/113956.html)
> included a lot of good information and discussion, but ultimately
On 31 October 2011 16:08, Tres Seaver wrote:
> On 10/31/2011 11:50 AM, Carl Meyer wrote:
>
>> I have no problem including the basic posix/nt activate scripts if
>> no one else is concerned about the added maintenance burden there.
>>
>> I'm not sure that my cross-shell-scripting fu is sufficient t
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On 10/31/2011 11:50 AM, Carl Meyer wrote:
> I have no problem including the basic posix/nt activate scripts if
> no one else is concerned about the added maintenance burden there.
>
> I'm not sure that my cross-shell-scripting fu is sufficient to
> w
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On 10/30/2011 06:28 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 12:10:18 + (UTC)
> Vinay Sajip wrote:
>>
>>> We already have Unix shell scripts and BAT files in the source tree. Is
>>> it really complicated to maintain these additional shell s
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On 10/31/2011 09:35 AM, Vinay Sajip wrote:
> That's true, I hadn't thought of that. So then it sounds like the thing to do
> is
> make venv a package and have the code in venv/__init__.py, then have the
> scripts
> in a 'scripts' subdirectory below t
Carl Meyer oddbird.net> writes:
> I don't see any advantage to zipping. If done at install-time (which is
> necessary to make the scripts maintainable in the source tree) it also
> has the downside of introducing another difficulty in supporting source
> builds equivalently to installed builds.
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On 10/30/2011 04:47 PM, Vinay Sajip wrote:
> Antoine Pitrou pitrou.net> writes:
>> It would be even simpler not to process it at all, but install the
>> scripts as-is (without the execute bit) :)
> Sure, but such an approach makes it difficult to prov
On 31 October 2011 14:22, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 05:59:09 -0400
> "Eric V. Smith" wrote:
>>
>> It might be true that such systems don't need binary packages on PyPI,
>> but the original question is about binary package support for the
>> packaging module on non-Windows system
Antoine Pitrou pitrou.net> writes:
> Isn't that overengineered? We're talking about a couple of files.
We're not talking about a lot of code to do this, either - just the interface to
the existing code (which is needed anyway to install the minimal scripts in the
venv).
> It's not even obvious
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 05:59:09 -0400
"Eric V. Smith" wrote:
>
> It might be true that such systems don't need binary packages on PyPI,
> but the original question is about binary package support for the
> packaging module on non-Windows systems. I think the answer is clearly
> "yes": I have such sy
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 07:50:24 + (UTC)
Vinay Sajip wrote:
> Antoine Pitrou pitrou.net> writes:
>
> > I don't understand why a zip file makes this easier (especially the
> > "update selectively" part).
>
> Not a zip file specifically - just a binary stream which organises scripts to
> be
> in
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On 10/28/2011 05:10 PM, Chris McDonough wrote:
>> Why not modify sys.prefix?
>> - --
>>
>> As discussed above under `Backwards Compatibility`_, this PEP proposes
>> to add ``sys.site_prefix`` as "the prefix relative to which
>>
Martin v. Löwis v.loewis.de> writes:
> This presumption is false (as is the claim that you need to install the
> MSI to get at the files). It's quite possible to extract the files from
> the MSI without performing the installation. There are actually two ways
> to do that:
> a) perform an "admin
Paul Moore gmail.com> writes:
> Agreed - the "one size fits all" data location is a limitation. I'm
> not sure that in practical terms it is a big issue, though - it's been
> like that since the wininst format was designed, and nobody has ever
> complained. There are certainly cases where package
On 31 October 2011 10:42, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
> Am 31.10.2011 09:07, schrieb Vinay Sajip:
> This presumption is false (as is the claim that you need to install the
> MSI to get at the files). It's quite possible to extract the files from
> the MSI without performing the installation. There ar
Am 31.10.2011 09:07, schrieb Vinay Sajip:
> Paul Moore gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Hang on. I'm talking here about repackaging the binary files in the
>> MSI file for use in a pysetup install invocation. As pysetup has no
>> GUI, and doesn't integrate with Add/Remove, there's no issue here. If
>> you
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On 10/30/2011 5:14 PM, Tres Seaver wrote:
> On 10/30/2011 02:04 PM, Ned Deily wrote:
>> In article
>> ,
>
>>
>
> Paul Moore wrote:
>
>>> I'd like to reopen the discussions on how the new packaging
>>> module will handle/support binary distributio
Paul Moore gmail.com> writes:
> Hang on. I'm talking here about repackaging the binary files in the
> MSI file for use in a pysetup install invocation. As pysetup has no
> GUI, and doesn't integrate with Add/Remove, there's no issue here. If
> you want a GUI and Add/Remove integration, just run t
Antoine Pitrou pitrou.net> writes:
> I don't understand why a zip file makes this easier (especially the
> "update selectively" part).
Not a zip file specifically - just a binary stream which organises scripts to be
installed. If each class in a hierarchy has access to a binary stream, then
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