Re: [Python-Dev] Packaging and binary distributions for Python 3.3

2011-10-09 Thread PJ Eby
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Paul Moore wrote: > As regards the format, bdist_dumb is about the right level - but > having just checked it has some problems (which if I recall, have been > known for some time, and are why bdist_dumb doesn't get used). > Specifically, bdist_dumb puts the locati

Re: [Python-Dev] Packaging and binary distributions for Python 3.3

2011-10-09 Thread Michael Foord
On 9 Oct 2011, at 21:14, Paul Moore wrote: > On 9 October 2011 20:47, Tarek Ziadé wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:31 PM, PJ Eby wrote: >> ... What we can do however is to see what bdist_egg does and define a new bdist command inspired by it, but without zipping, pkg_resource cal

Re: [Python-Dev] Packaging and binary distributions for Python 3.3

2011-10-09 Thread Paul Moore
On 9 October 2011 20:47, Tarek Ziadé wrote: > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:31 PM, PJ Eby wrote: > ... >>> What we can do however >>> is to see what bdist_egg does and define a new bdist command inspired by >>> it, but without zipping, pkg_resource calls, etc. >> >> Why?  If you just want a dumb bdist

Re: [Python-Dev] Packaging and binary distributions for Python 3.3

2011-10-09 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:31 PM, PJ Eby wrote: ... >> What we can do however >> is to see what bdist_egg does and define a new bdist command inspired by >> it, but without zipping, pkg_resource calls, etc. > > Why?  If you just want a dumb bdist format, there's already bdist_dumb. >  Conversely, if

Re: [Python-Dev] Packaging and binary distributions for Python 3.3

2011-10-09 Thread PJ Eby
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Éric Araujo wrote: > After all, if setuptools and then pkg_resources were turned > down for inclusion in Python 2.5, it’s not now that we have packaging that we’ll change our mind and just bless eggs. Actually, that's not what happened. I withdrew the approved

Re: [Python-Dev] Bring new features to older python versions

2011-10-09 Thread Michael Foord
On 08/10/2011 20:38, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:35 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: The first one is about licensing. What I would be doing is basically copy&paste pieces of the python stdlib modules (including tests) and, where needed, adjust them so that they work with

Re: [Python-Dev] Packaging and binary distributions for Python 3.3

2011-10-09 Thread Paul Moore
On 9 October 2011 08:15, Éric Araujo wrote: >> But one thing struck me - the "Installing Python Projects" document >> talks about source distributions, but not much about binary >> distributions. > This is inherited from distutils docs, not a deliberate choice.  We just > haven’t thought much, if

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-ideas] PEP 3101 (Advanced string formatting) base 36 integer presentation type

2011-10-09 Thread Victor Stinner
Le 08/10/2011 17:14, Victor Stinner a écrit : Le 08/10/2011 15:03, Antoine Pitrou a écrit : On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 21:14:44 -0600 Jeffrey wrote: I would like to suggest adding an integer presentation type for base 36 to PEP 3101. I can't imagine that it would be a whole lot more difficult than the

Re: [Python-Dev] Packaging and binary distributions for Python 3.3

2011-10-09 Thread Éric Araujo
Hi Paul, Thanks for raising this during the development phase. > I see that the Packaging documentation is now more complete (at least > at docs.python.org) - I don't know if it's deemed fully complete yet, > but I scanned the documentation and "Installing Python Projects" looks > pretty much con