Re: [Python-Dev] Packaging in Python 2 anyone ?

2011-08-17 Thread Fred Drake
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > It's actually for the same reason that unittest changes are backported > under the unittest2 name - the distutils2 name can be used in the > future to get Python 3.4 packaging features in Python 3.3, but that > would be difficult if the backp

Re: [Python-Dev] Packaging in Python 2 anyone ?

2011-08-17 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Fred Drake wrote: > On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: >> I'll throw this out there.. why is it going to have a different name on >> python2 than on python3? > > So it can be a drop-in replacement for the existing distutils2, I'd expect. > >

Re: [Python-Dev] Packaging in Python 2 anyone ?

2011-08-17 Thread Fred Drake
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: > I'll throw this out there.. why is it going to have a different name on > python2 than on python3? So it can be a drop-in replacement for the existing distutils2, I'd expect. "packaging" is new with Python3, and is the Guido-approved name

Re: [Python-Dev] Packaging in Python 2 anyone ?

2011-08-17 Thread Chris McDonough
I'll throw this out there.. why is it going to have a different name on python2 than on python3? - C On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 22:30 +, Vinay Sajip wrote: > Tarek Ziadé gmail.com> writes: > > > IOW, the task to do is: > > > > 1/ copy packaging and all its stdlib dependencies in a standalone pr

Re: [Python-Dev] Packaging in Python 2 anyone ?

2011-08-17 Thread Vinay Sajip
Tarek Ziadé gmail.com> writes: > IOW, the task to do is: > > 1/ copy packaging and all its stdlib dependencies in a standalone project > 2/ rename packaging to distutils2 > 3/ make it work under older 2.x and 3.x (2.x would be the priority) < > 4/ release it, promote its usage > 5/ consolid

Re: [Python-Dev] GIL removal question

2011-08-17 Thread Sturla Molden
Den 10.08.2011 13:43, skrev Guido van Rossum: They have a specific plan, based on Software Transactional Memory: http://morepypy.blogspot.com/2011/06/global-interpreter-lock-or-how-to-kill.html Microsoft's experiment to use STM in .NET failed though. And Linux got rid of the BKL without STM.