Re: [Python-Dev] Stable buildbots update

2011-05-22 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:00 AM, Bill Janssen wrote: > Tarek Ziadé wrote: > >> Yes, I am aware of this. I have fixed today most remaining issues, and >> fixing the final ones right now. > > Just FYI:  the "AMD64 Snow Leopard" buildbot and "PPC Leopard" buildbots > are now green, but the "PPC Tige

Re: [Python-Dev] The socket HOWTO

2011-05-22 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 3:38 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: > On 05/21/11 18:01, Senthil Kumaran wrote: >> So a rewrite with good pointers would be more appropriate. > > Even then, it's better off in the Wiki until the rewrite is complete. Perhaps replacing it with a placeholder page that refers to the

Re: [Python-Dev] Hello!

2011-05-22 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Fri, 20 May 2011 19:01:26 +0200 > Charles-François Natali wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> My name is Charles-François Natali, I've been using Python for a >> couple years, and I've recently been granted commit priviledge. >> I just wanted to say h

Re: [Python-Dev] looking for a contact at Google on the Blogger team

2011-05-22 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 7:47 AM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >> As Jesse has said, there is an RFP in development to improve >> python.org to the point where we can self-host blogs and the like and >> deal with the associated user account administration appropriately. > > To run a blog on www.python.

Re: [Python-Dev] CPython optimization: storing reference counters outside of objects

2011-05-22 Thread Cesare Di Mauro
2011/5/23 "Martin v. Löwis" > > I'm not a compiler/profiling expert so the main question is if such > > design can work, and maybe someone was thinking about something > > similar? > > My expectation is that your approach would likely make the issues > worse in a multi-CPU setting. If you put mul

Re: [Python-Dev] CPython optimization: storing reference counters outside of objects

2011-05-22 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> I'm not a compiler/profiling expert so the main question is if such > design can work, and maybe someone was thinking about something > similar? My expectation is that your approach would likely make the issues worse in a multi-CPU setting. If you put multiple reference counters into a contiguou

Re: [Python-Dev] Stable buildbots update

2011-05-22 Thread Bill Janssen
Tarek Ziadé wrote: > Yes, I am aware of this. I have fixed today most remaining issues, and > fixing the final ones right now. Just FYI: the "AMD64 Snow Leopard" buildbot and "PPC Leopard" buildbots are now green, but the "PPC Tiger" buildbot is still failing for all branches because of packagi

Re: [Python-Dev] CPython optimization: storing reference counters outside of objects

2011-05-22 Thread Charles-François Natali
>> 1. CPU cache lines (64 bytes on X86) containing a beginning of a >> PyObject are very often invalidated, resulting in loosing many chances >> to use the CPU caches > > Mutating data doesn't invalidate a cache line. It just makes it > necessary to write it back to memory at some point. > I think

Re: [Python-Dev] CPython optimization: storing reference counters outside of objects

2011-05-22 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Hello, On Sun, 22 May 2011 01:57:55 +0200 Artur Siekielski wrote: > 1. CPU cache lines (64 bytes on X86) containing a beginning of a > PyObject are very often invalidated, resulting in loosing many chances > to use the CPU caches Mutating data doesn't invalidate a cache line. It just makes it n