Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88395 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/asyncore.py

2011-02-14 Thread Paul Moore
On 15 February 2011 00:45, wrote: > As far as the difficulties of "finding" the good ideas in Twisted goes, > there are several people familiar with Twisted already contributing to this > thread.  Between us all, I'm sure we can dig out the insidiously buried > secrets.  As I mentioned before, I'

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88395 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/asyncore.py

2011-02-14 Thread James Mills
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Daniel Stutzbach wrote: > If we go with something based on or inspired by Twisted, that solves some > problems, but creates others.  Will users be able to later migrate to using > Twisted proper?  Will the standard library module and Twisted go out of > sync?  Wha

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88395 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/asyncore.py

2011-02-14 Thread James Mills
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:45 AM, wrote: > As far as the difficulties of "finding" the good ideas in Twisted goes, > there are several people familiar with Twisted already contributing to this > thread.  Between us all, I'm sure we can dig out the insidiously buried > secrets.  As I mentioned bef

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88395 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/asyncore.py

2011-02-14 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 8:20 PM, wrote: > What part do you think is a hard problem? Convincing people to switch to a > new API? > I think the hard parts is coming up with an API that's simple enough to learn quickly but powerful enough for to cover most use-cases and cleanly extendable to cover

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88395 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/asyncore.py

2011-02-14 Thread Eric Smith
On 2/14/2011 5:15 PM, Greg Ewing wrote: Giampaolo Rodolà wrote: for me it should also fit one crucial requirement: it should be *simple* and reflect the simplicity and "taste" of all other stdlib modules, and to fulfill such a requirement I think Twisted probably needs to be "adapted" a bit.

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88395 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/asyncore.py

2011-02-14 Thread exarkun
On 14 Feb, 10:15 pm, greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote: Giampaolo Rodol� wrote: for me it should also fit one crucial requirement: it should be *simple* and reflect the simplicity and "taste" of all other stdlib modules, and to fulfill such a requirement I think Twisted probably needs to be "ada

Re: [Python-Dev] Rights on the tracker

2011-02-14 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Done. I hope. This is the first one we (currently) have where more > than one person is being auto-nosied, so I hope I got the syntax right. It should be fine: roundup_tracker=> select * from component_add_as_nosy where nodeid = 25; linkid | nodeid + 7641 | 25 12434

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88395 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/asyncore.py

2011-02-14 Thread Greg Ewing
Giampaolo Rodolà wrote: for me it should also fit one crucial requirement: it should be *simple* and reflect the simplicity and "taste" of all other stdlib modules, and to fulfill such a requirement I think Twisted probably needs to be "adapted" a bit. My thoughts exactly -- from a bird's eye

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88395 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/asyncore.py

2011-02-14 Thread Bill Janssen
Giampaolo Rodolà wrote: > Although I don't use it, it seems that Twisted managed to do this by > splitting the concepts of "transport" and "protocol" / "application" > and by using zope.interface. You might want to look at the ILU core, too, just for ideas. Somewhat to my surprise, the link htt

Re: [Python-Dev] Rights on the tracker

2011-02-14 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 00:16:05 +0100, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 14:47:01 + Alexis Métaireau > wrote: > > * Is it possible to automatically be in the noisy list for distutils2' > > bug reports ? > > Someone else with the right knowledge and power will have to do that. Done.

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88395 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/asyncore.py

2011-02-14 Thread Giampaolo Rodolà
2011/2/13 Antoine Pitrou : > >> It would then be subject to python-dev development policy rather than >> twisted dev policy (which is even stricter!). Would the twisted devs >> *really* want that? We could use the same processes we have for >> "externally maintained" libraries, but they have withou

Re: [Python-Dev] [python-committers] [RELEASED] Python 3.2 rc 3

2011-02-14 Thread Mark Summerfield
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:40:00 +0100 Georg Brandl wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On behalf of the Python development team, I'm happy to announce > the third release candidate of Python 3.2. > > Python 3.2 is a continuation of the efforts to improve and stabilize > the

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.2 rc 3

2011-02-14 Thread Victor Stinner
Le lundi 14 février 2011 à 07:40 +0100, Georg Brandl a écrit : > On behalf of the Python development team, I'm happy to announce > the third release candidate of Python 3.2. Oh, the RC3 changelog is still very long. And sorry, because I contributed to this long list of changes! I hope that the lis